This 1867 photo is of Dudley Street at the corner of Smallbrook Street. It was the view looking from Pershore Street. Viv.
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Dudley street
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A warm welcome to the Forum Chris. The photographer was Henry Joseph Whitlock. Photo was taken in May 1867. Viv.
Bomb damage at the corner of Smallbrook and Dudley Streets. Viv.
The view along Dudley Street from Smallbrook Street. Viv.
A tinted lithograph of Dudley Street dated 1866. Viv.
Richard Dye
master brummie
Oh my! What a wonderful picture!
and not a sign of health and safety back then viv...yes dudley st is still there but not looking half as interesting as it once did
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BrummieGeoff
Sparkhill Lad
Here are a couple of interesting old views of Dudley Street that I've not seen before. They are dated as May 1867 and accredited to the Birmingham photographer Henry J Whitlock.
They are both taken from the same part of the street .... the first looking towards Great Queen Street, the second looking towards Smallbrook Street. I assume the building just visible beyond Great Queen Street is New Street Station.
T. Moore the shop keeper appears to sell a wide range of wares .... from "beer machines to coffins" !
They are both taken from the same part of the street .... the first looking towards Great Queen Street, the second looking towards Smallbrook Street. I assume the building just visible beyond Great Queen Street is New Street Station.
T. Moore the shop keeper appears to sell a wide range of wares .... from "beer machines to coffins" !
Excellent photos Geoff. Thanks for posting.
Viv.
Viv.
what wonderful photos...thanks for sharing
Sten Thomas
proper brummie kid
My brother Tom worked for Geo Lewis a wholesales stationary warehouse in Dudley Street, and it was his first job at 14 - which was in 1944.
He was paid 25 shillings a week (£1.25) and worked there as a packer. He gave mom a pound for his "keep" and had five bob pocket money. One of his jobs was to push a basket carriage around the town and wait outside whilst the rep went into the shops peddling his wares. Lunchtimes he would go to a cafe in Pershore Street and buy two rock cakes and a cup of tea for sixpence (2.5p).
He went on to do a variety of jobs after National Service, including working for the G..P.O. I suppose you could say he did not achieve any great status in life, but he was one of the countless Brummies that diligently went to work each day and never threw a "sickie" or shirked work unless he was really ill. But now how times have changed!! We had little compared with today, yet we were a lot happier then.
He went into a care home a few years ago, and once told me "We've seen the best times". I don't know what he meant but how right he was.
He died of cancer a few years ago aged 88.
BrummieGeoff
Sparkhill Lad
Here's another copy of Viv's initial photo for this thread .... showing Dudley Street (ahead) at it's junction with Smallbrook Street (left), dated May 1867. The quality of the photo is stunning, and reveals lots of interesting details. The Apple Tree pub is run by John Harbige. There's a sign pointing down Smallbrook Street to Day's Crystal Palace theatre that stood on the corner of Hurst Street. There are signs informing us that "THESE PREMISES ARE NOT COMING DOWN" .... presumably other local buildings are being demolished. A former occupant has removed to Duddeston Row. The King's Head pub is visible on the left side of Dudley Street. Keel the hatter appears to be having work done on his premises, maybe a new awning? And there are a lots of Brummies on the street watching what the photographer - Henry Joseph Whitlock - is doing.
Fascinating photo Geoff. It's one of those you can take a long look at and still discover more detail.
Mr Keel - riight in photo - must have got a shock when this happened ! (See attachment)
Mr Geo Smith was a later publican of the Apple Tree (lovely name, possibly emphasising it originally serving mostly cider perhaps ?)
Ludlow grocery cannisters had moved to Bartholomew Street by 1866, just before the photo.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
Mr Keel - riight in photo - must have got a shock when this happened ! (See attachment)
Mr Geo Smith was a later publican of the Apple Tree (lovely name, possibly emphasising it originally serving mostly cider perhaps ?)
Ludlow grocery cannisters had moved to Bartholomew Street by 1866, just before the photo.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
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I have joined this forum having come across this excellent photo you have posted. An ancestor of mine was the publican of the Kings Head, Dudley Street, for a few years until his death on 13th January 1863, so not long before this photo. It's probably me, but I can't make out a pub sign down Dudley Street as you have indicated. Can you by any chance detail its place in the street a little better for me. Appreciate it. Corinne
mike the photo on post 17...is that not the kings head pub on the left where we see an old pub lamp...well i think its a pub lamp ?
lyn
I'm not certain it is a pub lamp, though it well might be. But is very indistinct. The second photo, also looking down the same direction, on post 11 shows what looks like a pub lamp,, and I would guess it might be the kings Head. that lamp is in a different height to the one on the later post
BrummieGeoff
Sparkhill Lad
Mike: the lamp on the left of Dudley Street in Post #17 is in the correct position for the King's Head, but I agree the name is not legible.
Note that the second photo in Post #11 is looking the opposite way down Dudley Street i.e. towards Smallbrook Street. Therefore the King's Head is towards the end of the Street on the right.
Note that the second photo in Post #11 is looking the opposite way down Dudley Street i.e. towards Smallbrook Street. Therefore the King's Head is towards the end of the Street on the right.
Yes you are correct. My error. but the photo in post 11 stated the King's Head was on the left, so confused me !
flossiefoster
master brummie
That's a lovely picture Viv.