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Coulbourne Arms pub Villa Road

Astoness

Astoness

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hi folk i fear this one may prove hard to find but if anyone has a pic of the coulbourne arms that was on the corner of hunters road/villa road i would be most grateful

many thanks

lyn
 
When did it close Lyn? Was it demolished? Was it a pub until it was demolished or did it close and become something else? I can't find any reference to it on-line :(
 
Villa Rd Hunters Rd.jpghi pol i think this pub could have been demolished very early possibly around the 20s or 30s..growing up around that area i can well remember that on that spot was a greengrocers it was not a brick built building but a wooden one think it was called willets..here is a map showing the pub...i did have a photo showing a long view of villa road and you could just see the edge of the pub but i cant even find that one now...
 
That is a long time ago - perhaps the only place to find it will be an old book. Hopefully one will turn up.
 
villa road.jpgwell ive got this one wrong..the pub was not demolished that early..the building was still there in the 60s as this pic will show although not a pub by then...its on the corner just down from the bulls head..
 
Lyn
Both the electoral rolls and some of the directories list it as the Goulbourne Arms. the electoral rolls list it as a pub in 1935 and the directories up to the 1936 edition, so it probably ceased being a pub 1935-36 .
 
Lyn is it this building 84-88 Villa Road?

If so it was still there in 2009 waiting to be demolished because it was unsafe - it was known as the Black cat building because it had traded as the Black cat Cafe. A map shows it on the corner.
 

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dont think thats it pol..if you compere my pic...the pub had a flat roof and no attics above...your pic looks more to me like the building that was next door to the pub..also your building has got 3 double windows and the pub does not...most interesting will dig a bit further..i think the pub was at no 90 villa road

thanks mike for that info that is most useful..


thanks pol

lyn
 
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According to the early Kelly's directories in the early 1900's there was a beer retailer at 216 Hunters Rd. Which is the junction of Hunters Rd and Lozells Rd. In the early editions it was only known as a beer retailer. In the 1937 edition it is named at the Burton House PH. It remains in all the edition I have up until 1974. Now I know it is possible to have two pubs next door to each other but I don't think that is the case here. I think the pub traded as the Coulbourne Arms whilst a beer house, but on obtaining a full license it changed names to the Burton House. So perhaps you might have a little more luck searching for both names. Well that is if my theory is correct.
 
Lyn

Ignore my previous comments, as I've just checked it out some more and the Burton House was on the other side of the road and didn't come into being until the Coulborne Arms closed.
 
The%20Burton%20(2).jpghi phil thats ok and yes the burton was actually in hunters road or little hunters lane as it was once called..the building dates back to the 1860s and it still there i am pleased to say although as you would expect it is no longer a pub...off topic i know but as we are talking about the burton thought you may like to a photo of it and another pic i took of it not long ago..
 
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Surely this must at least be part of the pub on the extreme right of this old postcard.
 

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yes thats it phil you can just see the hanging light outside..thanks for posting it i did have a similar shot in black and white but cant find it now.ideally i would love a full on shot so will keep searching..

thanks again phil..its a start

lyn
 
Sorry Lyn - I got confused with which building you meant on the picture - I think the one I posted on post #8 is the one next door to it.
 
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Sorry Lyn - I got confused with which building you meant on the picture - I think the one I posted on post #8 is the one next door to it.
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its ok pol thats a good pic you posted especially as the building has now vanished...

lyn x
 
I think this was from the same photo as yours Lyn, but slightly less cropped.

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Re: Goulbourne Arms pub, Viilla Road

mikejee said:
Lyn
Both the electoral rolls and some of the directories list it as the Goulbourne Arms. the electoral rolls list it as a pub in 1935 and the directories up to the 1936 edition, so it probably ceased being a pub 1935-36 .
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Indeed it was.

There is a reference HERE in the London Gazette, in 1879, to the estate of deceased licensee, Joseph Gill.
It refers to the pub as being in the Hunter's Lane, presumably renamed later to Villa Road.

I'd love to know how it was named as that name is in my genealogy surname list, athough that branch of the family only came to Brum in the late 40s!!
 
hi curly and thanks for that newspaper snippet i shall save it..hunters lane became hunters road but was never renamed villa road...the two are totally seperate...as half the pub was in villa road and half in hunters lane/rd it could be that in 1879 hunters lane was the given addess...

hope you find out where the name goulbourne comes from it is unusual so the pub could quiite easily have been named after someone of that name who maybe owned some lane around that area looking at old maps may help you...just a thought..

lyn
 
Astoness said:
hi curly and thanks for that newspaper snippet i shall save it..hunters lane became hunters road but was never renamed villa road...the two are totally seperate...as half the pub was in villa road and half in hunters lane/rd it could be that in 1879 hunters lane was the given addess...

hope you find out where the name goulbourne comes from it is unusual so the pub could quiite easily have been named after someone of that name who maybe owned some lane around that area looking at old maps may help you...just a thought..

lyn
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Sorry, yes, not awake yet 8^) .. Hunters Road....comes up from Soho Hill, du-oh - should have known.

Goulbourne is not an uncommon name in N Wales/Lancashire, may have originated from town of Golborne nr Wigan
 
I've only just stumbled over this thread from eight years ago. I can't come up with any pictures, but in 1908 my great-uncle, Joseph Arch, was the licensee of the Golbourne Arms, with the address given as 90 Villa Road.
The household would have been Joe's wife Annie and his two children Joe jnr and Gladys. It doesn't look as if he was there very long: in 1905 he was at the Soho Tavern in Park Road, and by 1911 he was at the Station Hotel in Kings Heath.
I never knew Joe as he died in 1946. Family legend has it that he went the way of all too many publicans and hit the ale himself, with sad results. Certainly by 1939 he'd left the business and was working as a sales rep, living in a lodging house in Branston Street.
 
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