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Corporation Street

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Another view of Corporation Street which I have never seen before....another one from ebay......;)

I think it is New Street....?
 

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John, The Grand Theatre was in Corporation St just by the Old Square it backed onto Dalton St
 
Isn't that where I used to bop the night away at The Casino in the Old Square, next to the Kings Hall Market?
 
What magnificent buildings, built by craftsmen to last for years. very sad.
 
You are correct Charlie Mecca Dancing ....Grand Casino
 
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Great times, great friends, great music at the Casino - and my aunt bought all her net curtains at Kings Hall market next door.
 
Cromwell, I think you are wrong about the Grand Theatre, I'm sure it was in New Street and was demolished and Woolworths was built on the site.
Kings Hall was a theatre originally and my mom and dad remember going there when they were young. Mom also remembers as a child standing outside watching the "rich" patrons arrive in carriages pulled by horses, and marvelling at the lovely clothes the ladies wore.
 
Corporation street 1915

extract from Kelly's 1915 Corporation Street
 

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Hi Sylvia: It was the Theatre Royal that was in New Street and it had been there for about one hundred years before it was pulled down in l956 or l957. I was working at New Street Station then and used to walk up and watch the demolition. It was an awful sight to see I remember. I have a photo in one of Alton Douglas' books of the last night at the Theatre Royal with Patricia Routledge among others on the stage. Went to a couple of pantomimes there.
 

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My apologies to Cromwell and others re The Grand Theatre, as JennyAnn says it was the Theatre Royal in New Street. My only excuse is that I had a senior moment ..............
 
Dalton Street

Seeing the map and photos of the Grand Theatre in the Old Square, I wonder if anyone has a photo of Dalton Street which ran behind the Grand Theatre, and shows up on Rupert's map. Dalton Street was originally called London Prentice Street. I don't know when the name changed but I had family living in London Prentice Street up until 1861.

Judy
 
Dalton Street,

Judy, my g.grandparents were living at 42 London Prentice Street on the 1881 census, but the area was being redeveloped from about 1879 until the turn of the 20th century. This is an extract from a Carl Chinn article in the Birmingham Mail 18th February 2006. "Another was London Prentice Street, which was declaimed as a "nasty, dirty, stinking thoroughfare" But it was also the home of the poorest, many of whom were migrants from the west of Ireland"......
 
The Street got its name from a former London apprentice who set up his business in Brum ....the street was cut through in 1851 and named after scientist and philosopher John Dalton (1766-1844) Dalton St.
 
1792 map........



section of Charles Pye 1795 map substituted
 

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Sylvia - Thanks for the information about redevelopment of London Prentice Street. My gt.grandfather was born at 38 London Prentice Street in 1847. My 2 x gt.grandparents were both Irish, and I was aware that it was one of the 'Irish Quarters' at that time. They moved later to 12 Court in the same street. Last time I visited Brum there was only a small length of Dalton Street left.

Judy
 
Cromwell - Thanks for the 1792 map showing London Prentice Street. I think it was a reasonably long street at that time, and I know there were many courts along it. Also that it became a less than salubrious area! I shall keep hoping to see a photo or sketch of it - if one exists.

Judy
 
I made the same mistake as Sylvia, the reason I thought it was New Street....I am not sure if I have ever come across this Theatre before? I have looked at the maps but still not sure where it was...would it have stood where Virgins records is now...facing Lewis's ?..
 
Rupert....I did look at your map and seen the theatre, but still couldn't place where it was....on todays map...well a map from the 60's....the ringroad would have run either through it or very close to it....I think....
 
Sylvia - Seems that your gt.grandparents lived a couple of doors away from my 2 x gt.grandparents in London Prentice Street although yours were living there 20 years later! I don't know for definite but think mine might have come to Brum straight from Ireland during the Potato famine. 2 x gt.grandma was from Roscommon - not sure about her husband but was probably from the same area.

Judy
 
Subject Corporation St
1st Map 1945
2nd Map 1900
 

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Thank you for the maps Cromewell, it makes it so much easier to understand. Also my 3x gt grandfather was a clockmaker and his premises were in Chapple Street which is on the map.
 
Judy, it is a small world isn't it, I know my g.grandfather was born in Hull in 1834 before the potato famine, and his maternal grandparents were born in Co. Mayo, but it is so hard to trace Irish ancestors, and this line of my family are catholics and it hard finding information on them apart from what is on the censuses.
 
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