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Blackham family - help

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sheri

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I wonder if somebody has access toparish records for All Saints Church in West Bromwich. I am looking for the marriage of John Blackham b.1795/6 to Maria possibly Griffiths in September 1824. If I could find details of especially John's father it would help so much. On the 1841 census it says both John and Maria were born B'ham. They lived in Vale St. I know its the right family because my gt.g.father is there. It can be so confusing. I really need help with this. Thanks in advance,
Sheri
 
have you seen all the info on the igi records?

christening of john blackham 27 mar 1804 tipton staffs

father john blackham mother mary bate

marriage to maria griffiths 21 sep 1824 west bromwich, staffs

if you click pedigree then for john blackham the family are traced back to the early eighteenth century.
 
Hi Shera, Thank you for your reply. This is the information that I have - what's confused me is that on 1841 census it says they were both born in b'ham - which I know the census's were'nt always correct. But I do think this is the right family. Thank you once again,
Sheri
 
i dont believe that marriage to maria griffiths is your family as they seem to be in tipton in 1841 and 1851. :(
 
from the igi which seems to fit more with your details

marriage of john blackham to maria trussell 20 jul 1818 at st. marys
handsworth. (i have bham family in my tree marr at st. marys).

birth of john blackam 19 jan 1823 chr. 29 dec 1823 st. phillips bham

this could be their eldest son aged 15 on the 1841 census taking into account the ages were rounded up and down for that census

thomas blackham b. 26 jun 1825 chr. 7 jul 1825 at st. phillips bham

this could be second son also down as 15 in 1841.
 
Hi Shera, Brilliant - thank you so much - I've been working on this family for 8 years and have never been able to quite join them up. I only came across the Handsworth connection last week - don't know how I missed it before - to caught up with the Tipton/Wolverhampton families I guess. I've been on IGI hundreds of times looking - you wouldn't b elieve how many lists and names I have. I know you are right because Maria Trussel is living with her daughter in Vale St.
Thank you once more
Sheri
 
Hi Shera, thanks once again - I can't believe I've been chasing the wrong family all these years. It's quite exciting when you get a break through. This family is such an old Birmingham family - we have an unbroken male line right through to the present day - fortuntly they are n ot all named John.
Sheri

Researchin g names - Blackham, Hayward, Nabbs, Taylor (Small Heath), Shipley, Bray.Johnson.
 
sheri said:
Hi Shera, thanks once again - I can't believe I've been chasing the wrong family all these years. It's quite exciting when you get a break through. This family is such an old Birmingham family - we have an unbroken male line right through to the present day - fortuntly they are n ot all named John.
Sheri

Researchin g names - Blackham, Hayward, Nabbs, Taylor (Small Heath), Shipley, Bray.Johnson.
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Hi Sheri,

Seeing the first 2 names you are researching are Blackham and Hayward,
I wonder if the partners in the firm of solicitors Blackham Maycock and Hayward were/are your relatives. I remember the firm from the 1960s, -it was in Colmore Row on the corner of Bennetts Hill.

Kind regards

Dave.
 
Hi Dave, I've seen this firm of solicitors before - I think they've been around along time but I have no idea if they are connected - my gt.grandfather married Elizabeth Hayward. Do you have any info if so I would love to know. Have'nt got to modern research been struggling for with the wrong family.
Sheri
 
sheri said:
Hi Dave, I've seen this firm of solicitors before - I think they've been around along time but I have no idea if they are connected - my gt.grandfather married Elizabeth Hayward. Do you have any info if so I would love to know. Have'nt got to modern research been struggling for with the wrong family.
Sheri
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Hi Sheri,

Having a quick look at the internet would suggest that they are now located at 87 Hewell Road Barnt Green Tel 0121 447 7164, but I don't have any other info.

Kind regards

Dave
 
Hi Dave, thanks for the reply. I am stuck again. Does the Central Library hold the BMD records for St. Marys Handsworth? and would they be willing to look up John Blackham's marriage so I can find out who his father was - can't find it on Family Search. I don't mind paying for it.
Sheri
 
sheri said:
Hi Dave, thanks for the reply. I am stuck again. Does the Central Library hold the BMD records for St. Marys Handsworth? and would they be willing to look up John Blackham's marriage so I can find out who his father was - can't find it on Family Search. I don't mind paying for it.
Sheri
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Hi Sheri,

Afraid I dont have any knowledge of BMD records, but I expect there
will be plenty of others who do.

Good luck with your search.

Kind regards

Dave
 
Thanks Dave. I hope one of the very knowledgable people on this forum will be able to tell me if there is a way of accessing the BMD records of St. Mary's Handsworth - am looking for the marriage of John Blackham and Maria Trussell in July 1818 - need to find John's father's name.
Many thanks,
Sheri
 
the sad thing is sheri that even if you see the marriage details they will probably not have parents names. i have access to st. martins in bham and in those early years the parents were not recorded. :(
 
Thank you Shera, I don't know where to go from here - never mind. I'm very grateful for the help I've had.
Sheri
 
the birth/baptism would give you the parents names and you know round about when he was born from the censuses (it was about 1795 wasnt it) and he was born bham and was married at st. marys handsworth but had children christened at st. phillips so we dont really know where he would have been christened himself, but it could be one of those two churches. i have looked on igi but nothing has come up. maybe in future it will or someone may look it up in the library for you :rolleyes:
 
Hi there.
Does anybody have any info on Sara Jane Blackham who married Thomas Cooksey

I think she was born about 1836?? and was married 26 Aug 1850 in Handsworth. Buried 8 Oct 1884 in Tipton. I'm interested in her ancestors as I Know alot about there desendence.
Thanks.
 
Hi Shera, Thanks for your reply and for your help. I phoned the central library and am going to send for a copy of the marriage entry to see if that offers some help. I can send for the baptism but it's £25 so will leave that for now.
Sheri
 
Hi John, I've done quite a lot of research into the wrong branch of the Blackham family!! I've got a Sarah - don't know if she was Jane? - This Sarah's father was William c.1803 m to Phoebe c.1811 - his father was Benjamin c. 1768 m Sarah 1793 at Sedgley, she died May 1830 - Benjamin's father was Webb b 1743 d 1809 married Sarah Bradley b. 1744 married 1762. I don't know if this is correct - most of it came from IGI - I've no way of checking. The Blackham family from Sedgley/Wolverhampton/Tipton is huge and it's difficult to know who belongs to who.
Anyway hope it helps,
Sheri
 
John, I've just thought of something - have you been on the Curious Fox site as there is a lady on there who's done alot of research. If you don't already know it's only five pounds to join and you could e-mail her.
Sheri
 
Hi Sheri
Reference your post of the 06042009
I think that this might be the SARAH Blackham that I'm looking for
on the 1851 census there is this family
BENJAMIN Blackham 51 YOA SARAH Blackham 53 YOA
BENJAMIN " 16 YOA SARAH " 19 YOA
Born in Sedgley Staffordshire
Does this ring any bells????????? it is possibly that the young SARAH is
the One that married THOMAS COOKSEY on the 26 AUG 1850 in HANDSWORTH
CAN YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE HELP ME. confirm this.

REGARDS jOHN :redface::redface::redface:
 
John. perhaps the answer is to send for the marriage cert. It will have her fathers name on there. You can stipulate that you don't want the cert unless the fathers name is Benjamin.

Barrie.
 
Hi John, can't help much I'm afraid - I did find on 1851 census - which you may already have - Benjamin age 51 living Sedgley - Sarah age 53 - Sarah age 19 (yours I guess) - Benjamin 16 - living with them is Mary age 29, Wesley age 9, william age 7 and Sarah age 5 surname Burrass. I looked on Curious Fox but that didn't help.
No luck with 1841 Census???
I'll try and look tomorrow, past my bedtime.
Sheri
 
John, iforgot to ask - it you have any information on the Handsworth Blackham's I'd be interested - as I have nothing - I want John Blackham's parents he was born 1795/6 I think in Birmingham
 
sheri, still cant find john blackhams parents but theres an entry on igi for maria trussell which looks ok. maria trussell chr. 29 may 1801 at st. phillips bham father john trussell mother mary ann.

also a marriage of john trussell to mary ann borows 2 apr 1800 at aston juxta.
 
johnstephens, the sarah blackham you mention couldnt be the one that married thomas cooksey as she would have already been married and with thomas in 1851 as the marriage was 1850! she is with her parents benjamin and sarah and listed as unmarried.

there are quite a few sarah blackhams in 1841 who could fit the bill so i think the only way is to get the marr cert of sarah to thomas cooksey to find sarahs father.
 
Hi Shera, thank you for the info - I do already have that - I think there was a Blackham family in Handsworth if I can eventually find a lead. I've been in touch with someone - not on this forum - that maybe able to help I hope. I agree with you about JohnStevens 'Sarah' - looked on Ancestry,IGI, Curious Fox last night.
I'm sure if I were in Birmingham I'd never be out of the library!!.
Sheri
 
Hi All.
Thank you all for your replies and I will have send for the cert.
Sheri. have no info on the JOHN from Handsworth.
 
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