Bickerstaff Thomas

[marhat]

hi
i hope somebody can help me i have a Thomas Bickerstaff born in Scotland in 1806 he married a Ann Baily in 1828 in birmingham (i think) i wonder if it would say on their marrage cert where about in Scotland he is from, and their fathers names. I dont know which church
i hope somebody can help
mary hathaway

 

[Wendy]

Hi and welcome Mary. Sadly registration did not start untill 1837 so you won't be able to get a marriage certificate. Have you looked at the IGI on familysearch for any info?

 

[bren]

Hi Mary

Sorry but you will not be able to get a marriage cert, civil registration didn't start until 1837, the marriage will be recorded in the parish records only and the information they give very much depended on the minister. You would have to think yourself very lucky if any parents names appeared for the bride and groom.
Have just had a quick look on the IGI and found this --


THOMAS BICKERSTAFFE

Event(s):Marriages
Spouse: ANN BAILEY
Marriage: 04 AUG 1828 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Messages:

Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

Source Information:

Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

M010723 1796 - 1817 0919779-781 Film 6900689 Film

M010723 1817 - 1831 0919782, 0919783 Film NONE


bren

 

[Di.Poppitt]

I found Thomas and Ann on the 1841 and 1851 Census (let me know if you need those details) the 1841 never shows a birth place just whether in the census county, but shows Thomas as Biggerstaff and the 1851 just says Scotland. I can't find them after 1851.

 

[bren]

Hi marhat

Had a look on the IGI for a birth and found this BUT it is a "submitted" record not a "extracted" from parish record, this means you should only use it as a guide and you must try and confirm it from the parish records --


Thomas bickerstaff

Event(s):
Birth: About 1806 , Ayr, Scotland
Death: About 1890 Birmingham, Warwick, England

Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Source Information: No source information is available.


bren

 

[bren]

Hi marhat & Di

I have found a Bickerstaff on the 1851 Census, don't know if it is the same one Di found, looks like the one i found on the IGI


Name:Thomas Bickerstaff
Age:45
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1806
Relation:Head
Spouse's Name:Ann
Gender:Male
Where born:Scotland
Civil Parish:Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish:St Stephen
County/Island:Warwickshire
Country:England
Street address: 1 House 9 court, Hatchett Street

Occupation:

Registration district:Birmingham
Sub-registration district:St George
ED, institution, or vessel:36
Household schedule number:41

Household Members:NameAge
Ann Bickerstaff47 Birmingham
Ann M Bickerstaff12 West Bromwich
David Bickerstaff4 Birmingham
Isaac Bickerstaff14 West Bromwich
Thomas Bickerstaff45 Scotland
Thomas Bickerstaff18 Birmingham
William Bickerstaff16 Birmingham

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2058; Folio: 904; Page: 11; GSU roll: 332119-332121.


bren

 

[bren]

Hi ya

Here is a prime example why you cannot trust submitted records on the IGI, on the birth for Thomas that i found it says "Death about 1890 Birmingham", this would put him well into his 80s so i had to look, i did find a death recorded in 1894 --

Thomas Bickerstaff, age 62, 2nd qtr 1894 Aston 6d 220

So this couldn't be Thomas b1806 but is more likely his son Thomas who was born abt 1832.

Had a look for his wife on IGI --

Extracted Birth or Christening Record -- Ann Bailey --

Christening - 31st Dec 1804 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick
Parents -- Samuel & Mary Bailey

Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:

C041794 1804 - 1812 0813713 Film 0933378 Film

Sheet: 00


bren

 

[Di.Poppitt]

Hi bren, yes that is the census entry I found