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mike i wonder if i could trouble you for another pinpoint please...the address is 3/35 barker st..i had rellies here in 1911...

thank mike...

lyn:)
 
Bit of a mystery here Lyn. I took it you did mean Barker st Lozells At that time there was a Barker st - in Ladywood also. Are you sure it is the Lozells one . Trouble is no 35 Barker st is in blue, and there don't seem to be any back houses. Therefore, although there is only one family listed in the electoral roll in 1920, i think the place would have been divided into flats in 1911.
However if it was Barker St , Ladywood, then at the back of no 35 (in red) is Byron Place (in green), which has a number of houses in it.
Take your pick
Mike

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Barkerstladywoodmapc1918.jpg
 
morning mike...this is exactly what i thought...the barker st in lozells which i know so well as its close to villa st still have the original houses there and i could not see there being a back of 35...i will check the census again for the district but yes as i have the family on the 1901 ladywood area but a different address i would think its that barker st....mike i wonder if you could give me the name of family on the e rolls for both the lozells and the ladywood barker streets please i am looking for the downes family and as our mom and dad used to visit this address i would think they were there for some time..... thank you mike...

lyn
 
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Not much help Lyn.
1912 Ladywood Goodyer
Lozells Nutt
Absent 1918 Jadywood Deeming
1920 Ladywood Goodyear
Lozells Hollingsworth
Of course women were not included in 1912
mike
 
thanks mike..ive just re checked the the 1911 and it was the barker st at ladywood....thanks for the map...

lyn..
 
hi are you any connection to the downes family lived up a big terrace by upper sutton street
and the terrace was next but one to the victoria rd post office the actual terrace was on victoria rd aston
there was big familys up there along with the douglas family during the war years and through the mid forties and fifties as i seem to recall and
the fishers family best wishes astonian and i think the douglas,s finally moved to lenox street in the late fifties when they started to clear those back houses up the terrace only i also lived in the old cake shop just along from the baths on the corner of upper thomas street then moved down to the bottom end of victoria rd aston and i remember the nottingham family ; whom i would really like to trace today as we go back many years i know they went to aston church rd from there .then to park rd hockley one lived in baccus rd and one went to castle bromwich
but getting back to my question are you related to the downes family from that terrace on victoria rd during the forties and fifties
best wishes astonian
 
Hi Lyn
Not sure if this is one of yours?
George Downes in 1912 at 3 Byron Place, Barker Street

Suzanne
 
hi suzzane yes george is one of mine...i wonder how long the downes were at this address as im sure i remember our mom and dad saying that they used to visit barker st..mom and dad were both born in 1929...i shall be going to see our dad on sunday so i will ask him what he remembers....

thanks suzanne...:)
 
Hi Lyn

3 Byron Place, Barker St
1920 George & Elizabeth Downes
1925 as above
1930 Elizabeth Downes & Nellie Eliza & Charles Edwin Horace Floyd
1935 As above
1939 - 3 Barker Street Elizabeth Downes

Suzanne
 
ahh this is great suzanne thank you....i wonder how long the downes family were at barker st as maybe it was just our dad who used to go there..he would have been 10 in 1939..he and mom started going out together at the age of 14..

thanks again i am hoping dad can recall barker st..his memory is better than mine so i should get some info from him...:)
 
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hello michelle and welcome to the forum and yes please i am still interested in george downes..i need to get my notes out and refresh my memory on the downes family but my grandmother was kate alice downes who married henry harrington...

lyn
 
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Hi Lyn
George and Elizabeth Downes are the parents of Nellie who is my grandmother. George killed himself at the house in barker st in 1927 Elizabeth lived there until 1942. Nellie married Charles Floyd. I have Kate Alice Downes in my family tree.
Michelle
 
oh michelle that is tragic...i cant seem to link george and elizabeth downes to me at the min so bear with me...what relation is kate alice downes to you..this may help me sort it out..

lyn
 
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hi michelle...when was your grandmother nellie born because my grandmother kate alice had a sister nellie eliza/elizabeth born in 1904..
lyn
 
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Hi Lyn
Nellie Eliza Downes (Eliza on birth Elizabeth on death Certs) she died during child birth in 1942 leaving 2 children my father and his brother were both born in the same house in barker st his brother died age 6
Bear with me and I will let you know the link
Michelle
 
i thought so michelle..can you tell me who is down as nellies parents on her birth cert please...

lyn
 
ok michelle thanks for that info..it seems i was barking up the wrong tree thinking that my grandmother kate alice had a sister nellie eliz born 1904..my grandmothers parents were kate and albert henry downes...im just trying to figure out how kate alice is related to you and me notes are all over the place lol..

lyn
 
no michelle it was my dad who is now 83....i can ask him about this because if you have kate alice downes who was dads mom in your tree there must be a link...also kate alice and her hubby henry harrington lived in barker st and i believed died there in 48 and 49 again i can ask dad as i dont have their death certs...
 
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ok michelle i will need to do a bit more research now and will get back to you...

lyn
 
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