Ashwood Millward

[Tinpot]

Ashwood Millward married my great grandmother Emma Adkins in 1886. Attached is a court record from 1885 of two cases where he was found guilty of larceny from a person and theft of 60 iron ladles from a warehouse. A second record says that he got 6 months to run concurrently at Birmingham Prison. I am assuming this is what I know as Winson Green? Can I access the prison/ police records anywhere ?

 

[MWS]

Not sure there's much more available. I have got records detailing the release of a prisoner but that might depend on the prison.

There's a little info here...

http://calmview.birmingham.gov.uk/CalmView/app_themes/customer/images/bah-source-Prison%20Records.pdf

 

[Tinpot]

Thanks MSW. He is still quite elusive! I have found a record of the birth of a Delia Millward in Aston 1891. Emma Adkins did not marry Benjamin Crumpton until 1919 but he is named as the father of my Nan Emma Crumpton B 1894 on the copy of the birth certificate. Tinpot

 

[MWS]

From what records there are (and from the details on your other thread) it seems likely that Ashwood abandoned your great nan and possibly changed his name or left the country.

However, as she eventually married Benjamin Crumpton I wouldn't be surprised if she may have learnt of his death (when and wherever that was) and felt safe to re-marry. Just one of those family mysteries.

 

[Tinpot]

From what records there are (and from the details on your other thread) it seems likely that Ashwood abandoned your great nan and possibly changed his name or left the country.

However, as she eventually married Benjamin Crumpton I wouldn't be surprised if she may have learnt of his death (when and wherever that was) and felt safe to re-marry. Just one of those family mysteries.

The marriage certificate gives Benjamin as born in Kidderminster with his father named Joseph occupation weaver. That’s a nice link for me as I presume it was carpet weaving and I have visited factories there when studying textiles. Thanks for your help. Tinpot

 

[pjmburns]

Thanks MSW. He is still quite elusive! I have found a record of the birth of a Delia Millward in Aston 1891. Emma Adkins did not marry Benjamin Crumpton until 1919 but he is named as the father of my Nan Emma Crumpton B 1894 on the copy of the birth certificate. Tinpot

Not sure if you know but the birth of Delia is registered with mmn Atkins (could well be mis-spelling of Adkins).

Assume you have found her baptism record.

 

[Tinpot]

Not sure if you know but the birth of Delia is registered with mmn Atkins (could well be mis-spelling of Adkins).

Assume you have found her baptism record.

Hi Janice. I have not found a baptism record but do have Emma Millward, Delia Millward b 1891 and Emma Crumpton b 1894 (visitor)on the 1911 Census at 4 Lilly Place, Cooksey Road. Tinpot

 

[pjmburns]

Yes. I found the 1911.
Baptism record is on Ancestry.

 

[pjmburns]

I notice he is Ashford on some records and Ashwood onothers
This is Small Heath, All saints church



Was there a son John? Born 1890 and died 1898?
Christ Church Sparkbrook


Also Nelly born 1885

MILLWARD, NELLY	ATKINS
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 269

 

[Tinpot]

I notice he is Ashford on some records and Ashwood onothers
This is Small Heath, All saints church
View attachment 168719


Was there a son John? Born 1890 and died 1898?
Christ Church Sparkbrook
View attachment 168720

Also Nelly born 1885

MILLWARD, NELLY	ATKINS
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 269

Thanks Janice. Delia’s record also puts them in 95 Arthur Street. I think Emma Millward’s brother Edward Adkins is at that address. John is new to me and gives a new address alongside Nelly Millward to research.

 

[pjmburns]

Found them on 1891 census (as visitors to Edward Adkins) but, as I said, John seems to die young.
Haven't found a baptism for Nelly but will have a look.
Have you found Emma on 1901?

 

[Tinpot]

1901 as Emma Crumpton. Another confusion of names. Ashford/Ashwood is out of the picture by then.

 

[pjmburns]

Isn't she Milward on 1911?
Our ancestors certainly complicated things.

 

[Brasscaster]

In case you haven't already seen it, Tinpot. Ashford gets a couple of mentions in the Birmingham Mail.

 

[Tinpot]

Thanks Brasscaster I had not seen before. Tinpot

 

[Tinpot]

I have found an A Millward in The Police Gazette of 11 April 1911 listed under Army Reserve as absent or deserted on the 1st October in Coventry presumably 1910. So far I have not found a military record for this person yet. Place of enlistment Warwick and trade as stamper.

 

[MWS]

There appears to be an age listed for him - 25 3/4 - which would make him too young to be Ashwood.

 

[Tinpot]

There appears to be an age listed for him - 25 3/4 - which would make him too young to be Ashwood.

Thanks MSW I had not picked that out in the fine print. Tinpot

 

[Tinpot]

I went back to the attached 1871 census today and realised that Thomas Cundy was not included in the transcrption where Ashford /Ashwood first appeared. Went on to find the second attached transcription . I think Rebecca and Edward are the siblings of Emma Adkins, my great grandmother. Also we are back in Arthur Street.