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Ashted Row

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I am going to have a bash at doing Ashted Row. Liverpool do very well in terms of tourism with visitors walking the old Georgian quarter. It is something I have done myself, calling into a couple of old pubs en-route. If only Birmingham had saved and preserved Ashted well, who knows, it could have been a real asset.

This morning I have looked at No.109 where Ashted Row joined Vauxhall Road. See: https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/ashted-row/index.html#109
 
I just found another pic of the surgery at No.109 and am posting it here as, well, you never know, somebody might just recognise the patient. Well, actually, the patient is probably in the pram but the mother is just leaving the surgery and negotiating the steps with what was a fashionable pram at the time. Anybody recognise the woman?

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www.midlandspubs.co.uk said:
A newspaper item from 1950. Clearly there were some people who thought it would be a crime to demolish the old village of Ashted ....

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and they were right....once our wonderful old buildings are gone they are gone forever...of course i dont know for sure but i would like to bet that 80 % of our historical buildings were perfectly sound and could have been saved

lyn
 
Astoness said:
and they were right....once our wonderful old buildings are gone they are gone forever...of course i dont know for sure but i would like to bet that 80 % of our historical buildings were perfectly sound and could have been saved

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The urban environment or landscape is a palimpsest but I know of no other city that has eradicated the past so aggressively and with such insensitivity.
 
mikejee said:
Kieron
You say in your excellent piece that you have never seen a photo of Parliament house. Have you not seen the one below?
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Hi Mike, I don't know the book from which this is taken but the caption seems to suggest that Mr. Green is discussed in the text. I assume that house referred to is the one on the right. I don't know why no first name is used. I have found John S. Green at Ashted Row in a number of directories up until the 1830s. No number was given - possibly no numbering at this stage. I think he checked out in 1847 which may be when the name was dropped by Bacchus? It was once called Bacchus, Green and Green.
Anyway, the house on the right became No.38 and was the home/surgery to doctors in the 19th century. I have a pic of the house with one pilaster of the adjoining Parliament House.
 
www.midlandspubs.co.uk said:
Hi Mike, I don't know the book from which this is taken but the caption seems to suggest that Mr. Green is discussed in the text. I assume that house referred to is the one on the right. I don't know why no first name is used. I have found John S. Green at Ashted Row in a number of directories up until the 1830s. No number was given - possibly no numbering at this stage. I think he checked out in 1847 which may be when the name was dropped by Bacchus? It was once called Bacchus, Green and Green.
Anyway, the house on the right became No.38 and was the home/surgery to doctors in the 19th century. I have a pic of the house with one pilaster of the adjoining Parliament House.
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In one of my publish-and-be-damned moments I have mentioned John Green in my paragraph but ..... with the usual caveat that I have not seen proof of it myself. https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/ashted-row/index.html#38
 
No need Kieron, but thanks. If it had been my photo then obviously would be different (and a miracle considering I was not born then!)
 
Well I must say that I am disappointed that there has been hardly a response to all the information and previously-unpubished photographs of Ashted Row I have posted. Must be one of the thoroughfares that didn't touch the lives of forum members. Oh well, at least I attempted to tell the story of this 'lost' street during ten days of a miserable "super cold" that is going about.
 
A very comprehensive and interesting read, with some great photos. My great grandparents lived on Northumberland St/Vauxhall Road for 60 years, where the majority of their children were born, so I can imagine that they would have frequented some of those places.

One great aunt continued to live in a terrace of Vauxhall Road until the 1950s and another was not too far away on Cromwell St.
 
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I Thoroughly enjoyed your read on Ashted Row one of my relly's lived at no 192 in 1901. He was a Chocolate carter. Loved the pictures of the area.
 
Phil said:
Kermia

Another three to finish off with.

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The photo of Holbrook's on Ashted Row is fascinating to see. Holbrook's to this day manufacture Worcestershire Sauce in Australia, so after finding out that Lea and Perrins were now USA-owned I wanted to find a locally made alternative so began to check out Holbrook's to see if they would work.
As a Brummie it was great to find out that Holbrook's were originally British and setup in the 1860's, but their Birmingham factory was bombed out in WWII and they had to close down, but they had already opened an Australian subsidiary which continues to this day.

A great article here with more sketches of the supposed biggest storage VAT in the world at that time.
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Holbrook & Co. (Holbrook’s Worcestershire Sauce)

The “Holbrook” story got its start in the West Midlands of England in the late 1860’s with a company that manufactured vinegar called Tompson, Berry and Co. Also referred to as th…
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odowdchr said:
Does anybody know, is this the last bit of evidence left of Ashted Row (taken in 2021 according to Streetview)

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sadly yes...the pub used to be the dog and partridge..below is a 2010 view showing it in better days..also below a map showing ashted row..if you move the blue dot to the left the map fades out to show what is there now


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Kandor said:
It used to be called Ashted Row and our house was directly opposite Dr O'Keefes,
They knocked them all down in the early 60's as part of the inner city 'Slum' clearance
Slums...how dare they give them that label.
Ashted Row held some of the finest examples of Georgian/Victorian houses in the City.
And one of those so called slums was also my home.
Ashted Row formed me and gave me my education.
I learned to read and write while living there, I also learned about love, laughter, life and sadness.
Nechells gave me my values and my respect for other people,
It also gave me Community spirit back there too.
I remember our doors were left open, that kids could play out late, I knew the Seasons were defined and we all lived there in the knowledge that there was a better tomorrow.
But what I really loved was that our neighbours took the time to chat over the fence while the sun was going down.
That part is gone now, at least for me...
They built a monstrosity called Humber Tower in exactly the same spot as 143 Ashted Row.
By knocking down one home that held 10 people, they put up a square soulless block that held 85 families...
85 families without a garden to play or sit in...85 familes whose children had no trees to climb, who never dug a hole or made a bonfire.
Those same families who never made a a snowman or sat in front of a roaring coalfire toasting Pikelets...and we call it progress...
I could weep.
I'm sure those 85 families living there had values equal to mine,
I'm sure they have their hopes and aspirations...
I'm certain too they have their dreams...
I just wish they hadn't all chosen to live on mine....
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143! I am researching my grandfather's history and he lived at 143 Ashted Row in May 1886! What a small world we live in.
 
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