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An Historic Crossing
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Rowan, without seeing the print I will have a guess and say it was the meeting he had with Roosevelt mid Atlantic in Aug. 1941 to supply us with more munitions Ships aircraft etc. and to get the USA to join the war, but Pearl Harbour did that...........but would they have joined us without Pearl Harbour ? as Roosevelt wanted to but the American people did not want to and he knew it.............there is a school of thought that says Roosevelt knew about the attack on Pearl Harbour and let it happen to declare war on Germany and Japan. But I do not believe that anymore than Churchill knew about the Blitz of Coventry and let it happen to stir the British people (He did know it was going to happen but I will talk about that on the Blitz page next posting )
They did draw up the Atlantic Charter which was a preliminary attempt to sketch the war aims of the Allies and Roosevelt also offered protection to Convoys in large parts of the Atlantic
They did draw up the Atlantic Charter which was a preliminary attempt to sketch the war aims of the Allies and Roosevelt also offered protection to Convoys in large parts of the Atlantic
rowan
Born a Brummie
Cromwell, the back of the frame reads thus:
One of the most memorable acts in contemporary history was the signing of
the Atlantic Charter in August 1941, by the Prime Minister and the President
Of the United States.
Great secrecy had been maintained over the Prime Minister's movements.
He just faded out of the news of the day, and people began to ask:
"Where is he?" Then we heard that he was engaged in a series of meetings
with the President somewhere on boardship off the coast of America.
These meeting culminated in the declaration which did so much to shape the
thoughts of the people of the whole world and which had the affect of focussing
the aims and endeavours of the "United Nations".
Mr Churchill's return was the subject of much speculation and some anxiety.
Characteristically, he took the bold course of crossing on the sea and not by air.
He travelled on H.M.S. Prince Of Wales, that ill-fated battleship which so soon
afterwards was lost at Singapore.
In mid-Atlantic there was a dramatic meeting. A large convoy was sighted and
the merchant ships, opening out, the Prince Of Wales passed quickly between.
The signal flying is authentic and was supplied to Mr Mason by a naval officer.
It reads from right to left. Lower pennant indicates that the signal is in the
international code. Above is a hoist meaning "good voyage" On the left are
the flags spelling "CHURCHILL"
(This last bit is explaining the flags on the ship in the painting)
One of the most memorable acts in contemporary history was the signing of
the Atlantic Charter in August 1941, by the Prime Minister and the President
Of the United States.
Great secrecy had been maintained over the Prime Minister's movements.
He just faded out of the news of the day, and people began to ask:
"Where is he?" Then we heard that he was engaged in a series of meetings
with the President somewhere on boardship off the coast of America.
These meeting culminated in the declaration which did so much to shape the
thoughts of the people of the whole world and which had the affect of focussing
the aims and endeavours of the "United Nations".
Mr Churchill's return was the subject of much speculation and some anxiety.
Characteristically, he took the bold course of crossing on the sea and not by air.
He travelled on H.M.S. Prince Of Wales, that ill-fated battleship which so soon
afterwards was lost at Singapore.
In mid-Atlantic there was a dramatic meeting. A large convoy was sighted and
the merchant ships, opening out, the Prince Of Wales passed quickly between.
The signal flying is authentic and was supplied to Mr Mason by a naval officer.
It reads from right to left. Lower pennant indicates that the signal is in the
international code. Above is a hoist meaning "good voyage" On the left are
the flags spelling "CHURCHILL"
(This last bit is explaining the flags on the ship in the painting)
O
O.C.
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Nice bit of History Rowan, I have seen film of Churchhill on board the battleship with Roosevelt on World at War
O
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Rowan. I can add a bit more to this post which I found while going through some wartime material
and what I read, just makes you think how the world leaders of yesterday would handle the situations we are faced with today.
The Atlantic Charter Meeting held in August 1941 showed President Roosevelt's clear perception, almost from the beginning of the war, that Hitlerism and all its implications involved the gravest danger to the American people. The President reached the Atlantic rendezvous aboard the cruiser Augusta, and Mr. Churchill was aboard the new battleship Prince of Wales. Both men were accompanied by their Service and financial advisers, including Sir Dudley Pound, Sir John Dill, Sir Wilfred Freeman, Lord Beaverbrook, and Sir Alexander Cadogan on the British side, and Admirals King and Stark, General Marshall, Mr. Sumner Wells, Mr. Harry Hopkins, and Mr. Averell Harriman on the other. From the meeting emerged basic principles.
The points may be summarized as follows:
No country shall interfere with the internal affairs of another or covet its territory. Those who have lost their rights through aggression shall be helped to regain them. All countries should have equal access to essential raw materials. Force should not be used to decide international affairs, and the peace should ensure freedom from want and freedom from fear, with international co-operation the aim.
During the meetings the party attended divine service one bright Sunday morning on board Prince of Wales. "The Sun," said the Premier, in one of his brilliant wartime speeches, "shone bright and warm, while we sang the old hymns which are our common heritage."
"ONWARD, CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS."
This was one of the hymns sung during divine service on board Prince of Wales attended by both Premier and President.
and what I read, just makes you think how the world leaders of yesterday would handle the situations we are faced with today.
The Atlantic Charter Meeting held in August 1941 showed President Roosevelt's clear perception, almost from the beginning of the war, that Hitlerism and all its implications involved the gravest danger to the American people. The President reached the Atlantic rendezvous aboard the cruiser Augusta, and Mr. Churchill was aboard the new battleship Prince of Wales. Both men were accompanied by their Service and financial advisers, including Sir Dudley Pound, Sir John Dill, Sir Wilfred Freeman, Lord Beaverbrook, and Sir Alexander Cadogan on the British side, and Admirals King and Stark, General Marshall, Mr. Sumner Wells, Mr. Harry Hopkins, and Mr. Averell Harriman on the other. From the meeting emerged basic principles.
The points may be summarized as follows:
No country shall interfere with the internal affairs of another or covet its territory. Those who have lost their rights through aggression shall be helped to regain them. All countries should have equal access to essential raw materials. Force should not be used to decide international affairs, and the peace should ensure freedom from want and freedom from fear, with international co-operation the aim.
During the meetings the party attended divine service one bright Sunday morning on board Prince of Wales. "The Sun," said the Premier, in one of his brilliant wartime speeches, "shone bright and warm, while we sang the old hymns which are our common heritage."
"ONWARD, CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS."
This was one of the hymns sung during divine service on board Prince of Wales attended by both Premier and President.