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Amy Russell New Oscott Burial

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Sahar

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Hi
My great grandma Amy Russell died in 1926. They lived in New Oscott and I’m trying to find out where she was buried. I’ve tried the Birmingham Council burial records but nothing. Would there be anywhere close but not classed as Birmingham it could be. I’m a bit stuck! Thank you.
 
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Trying to see if I could find further details for you but a little confused was your g g's name Cox on death or Russell?
 
Sahar said:
Hi. She was a devout catholic.
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Oscott is too late for her burial as they began in 1939.

Could have been at St Josephs Nechells - there weren't many Catholic burial places. Their records are held at St Chads and, unless things have changed, you have to book to go and look yourself.
 
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pjmburns said:
Oscott is too late for her burial as they began in 1939.

Could have been at St Josephs Nechells - there weren't many Catholic burial places. Their records are held at St Chads and, unless things have changed, you have to book to go and look yourself.
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Having checked I don't think this is likely.
You could also ask at Olton Friary - a distance away but Catholics back in 1926 often wanted a Catholic graveyard.
 
Hi Janice, I'm wondering if she was buried at Witton Cemetery? Catholic burials took place there and it was opened in 1863.

The question also arises as to where she attended church - St Nicholas church in Boldmere was the nearest Catholic church to New Oscott but it doesn't have a burial ground. Likewise Christ the King in Warren Farm Road.

As a long shot she may have gone to the Abbey Church, Sutton Road, Erdington, where a burial ground does exist. It was built in the 19th Century.
 
Lady Penelope said:
Hi Janice, I'm wondering if she was buried at Witton Cemetery? Catholic burials took place there and it was opened in 1863.

The question also arises as to where she attended church - St Nicholas church in Boldmere was the nearest Catholic church to New Oscott but it doesn't have a burial ground. Likewise Christ the King in Warren Farm Road.

As a long shot she may have gone to the Abbey Church, Sutton Road, Erdington, where a burial ground does exist. It was built in the 19th Century.
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Hi Pen.
As she doesn't come up on the burial records site for Witton so I think that will be a no.
I had forgotten about the Abbey. That is worth a try - thanks.
St Joseph's springs to mind as I have relatives there. The website for there has closed but I believe the priest has records.
Thanks
 
Looking at the 1911 census it looks as though Amy lived at 'Beggars Bush' and this, like other places around the area, hopped about from county to county. At the time of the census it appears to have been in Perry Barr which was in Handsworth, Staffs.
 
Hi Janice, I was trying to work out which church she may have attended. Before the present St Nicholas' church was built there was a chapel of the same name (Pugin) in Boldmere Road which did have a burial ground but may have still been open in the 1920's. Demolished in the '60's.

My other thought was that not many people had cars in those days and it would take at least an hour to get to the Abbey. I've been racking my brains to think which buses would have run on a Sunday in the 1920's from the Bush, or at least down College Road to Warren Farm Road.
 
Thanks Pen. I think burial in a Catholic ground took priority over travel in those days. I've got relatives who lived in Birmingham buried in Olton because it had a burial ground - at least 2 buses away possibly more back then.
Trouble is most Catholic registers are held at St Chads and you have (or did last time I tried) have to search in person.
In some cases registers are at tge Church so asking there first is probably best.
 
Hello
Thank you again for helping. I've spoken to family and they seem to think there was a convent (St Mary's?) on Chester Rd. They know that's where my nan, Amy's daughter went to school and so wonder if it's possible that it's where Amy would attend church.
 
St Mary's is the name of Oscott College and she may have been able to attend Mass there but as we established burials did not start there until 1939.
Not sure if there was a local school. Will check.
 
i took a walk around st josephs nechells a few years back..a very spongy boggy graveyard now...far as i know it is still open and i found this info with contact details

www.catholicdirectory.org

St Joseph Catholic Church - Nechells

Check out the information for St Joseph Catholic Church - Nechells! The website also includes information for every Catholic Church, School, Mass Times and Priest in England, Wales, Scotland, Ireland and various other parts of the World.
www.catholicdirectory.org www.catholicdirectory.org
 
You could also try Sutton Coldfield cemetery as Amy's address in 1921 comes up as Chester Road Sutton Coldfield Staffordshire. Her Husband Walter is described as a farm Labourer on Mr F Wills Farm
 
Janet Hunt said:
You could also try Sutton Coldfield cemetery as Amy's address in 1921 comes up as Chester Road Sutton Coldfield Staffordshire. Her Husband Walter is described as a farm Labourer on Mr F Wills Farm
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Good idea - I thought of that as well but I think Sutton Coldfield is on the Birmingham Burial site and draws a blank.
 
Frank wills farm was College farm opposite St Mary's R. C. College I am guessing the farm belonged to the college as in 1921 they were both on college road opposite each other. Because he worked for and she was devoted to the church, maybe a burial was allowed in the Oscott cemetery for her in 1926
 
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I don't think there would be any harm in asking. I would think they might have their own burial records rather than them being at St Chads

Just done a check and they might be at Oscott. There were burials prior to 1939 but I can't tell who they might have been and whether members of the pubic might have been buried there.


Date:1850-1926
Title:Oscott Burials and Cemetery
Description:Papers relating to the Oscott Cemetery are still at Oscott where they are in current or semi-current use; this sub-section has been added to allow for later deposits.Until the 1940s burials at Oscott took place in burial grounds near the chapel and in a small piece of woodland. In 1937 the Trustees began negotiations with Birmingham Council to develop part of College Farm as a cemetery, thus providing a burial place for Catholics and a permanent open space for the College
 
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You beat me to it Janice I was just trying to find something about burials there prior to 1939 as I was sure I'd read it somewhere. Its a long shot but worth a try.
 
Janice, I found it quite difficult to search at St Chad's as they didn't give guidance or assistance the time I went. I may have been unlucky!

Sahar, the St Mary's on Chester Road. New Oscott, was and is a seminary for trainee priests. However, the convent of St Mary's was at Old Oscott, Handsworth (from which the one on Chester Road was founded - hence the old and the new). This can be quite confusing!

This link will take you to a thread and a conversation between Viv & Lyn about Old Oscott. If you look at post #44 you'll see a map which clearly shows a burial ground. Not sure if it's still there but may be worth pursuing.

Oscott Colleges (old Oscott And New Oscott)

The Pics of New Oscott College on Chester Road are very good. They recently had an open day as part of the PUgin anniversary year, and I was fortunate to get in! It is now one of only 3 catholic training Colleges for Priests in England & wales - the other 2 are in the South. Although a capacity...
birminghamhistory.co.uk birminghamhistory.co.uk
 
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