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Alexander Margaret Matilda ( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Liz Baker

master brummie
Right where to start ?I'm trying to find the where abouts of a lady Margaret Matilda nee: Wadlow trying to piece together where she lived and when. I'll try and give as much info that i know
Margaret Matilda Wadlow born 1870 father Edward charles wadlow mother margaret jones i thinkshe was born in aston.
she married 1888 a james Alexander I think they married in aston would anyone be able to get the details of a marriage or are the recrds only from the birmingham libary?
they had a daughter violet matilda Alexander born 1897 when she was born address was in 89trevor st birmingham. would we be able to find out who lived there
Then things get a little strange I didn't know about the above marriage or violet. As the
Margaret matilda Alexander is the same person as Margaret Matilda Francis. so sometime between 1897 and 1903 she was no longer with james Alexander but with george frederick francis?
22 july 1903 she had a son named george frederick Francis her name on birth cert as francis formerly wadlow
the fathers name was george richard francis the address on the birth cert was Horton st leek staffordshire. but no sign of them on census so lose them until 1925ish they appear on electrol roll 42 sheep street birmingham with other family members ,then some of the family split some go to wychbold avenue (May Baker nee francis & husband frederick baker) and then margaret matilda lives with other daughter edith white Nee Francis with her husband edward white at burney lane stechford where she dies aged 86 yrs old 1956 but in the later yrs she reverted back to her married name of alexander (I think that she didn't marry george richard francis as can't find marriage but took his name
so all family members named francis so no stigma of children out of wedlock?)I'm trying to find what happen to margaret matilda Alexander (Francis) from 1888 after her marriage to james and 1925ish when she had had more son's and daughters. as they just seem to disappear.:rolleyes: It all sounds so confusing hope people can make sense of it all as there are times when just can't get my head round it all. any help would be great.
Liz
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Liz the only way to get more info' on their marriage is to buy the cert' using the Reg' numbers below, or find out the Church where the marriage took place (which would be very hard to do as there are a number in the area) and for someone to view the record in person.
Dec 1888
ALEXANDER James Aston Vol6d Page535
WADLOW Margaret Matilda Aston 6d 535
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Thanks pom think another trip to the libary coming up :) thanks
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Hi Liz,don't want to muddy any waters,etc,but I came across this little one in the 1901 census.
Had a look in BMD,and this little one was the only Violet born B'ham,at that time.
It may be worth the cost of the birth cert,as she may have been adopted within the family for a while?
1901
Walter Alexander 30 Head born Portsmouth,Hampshire,Manager Music Book Shop
Florence Alexander 29 Wife born Cheltenham,Gloucestershire
Violet M Alexander 3 Daughter born Birmingham,Warwickshire
living at Silverdale, Castle Road East, Bedford
Births Jun 1897
Violet Matilda Alexander Aston 6d 332
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

ladylinda thanks i think your right I'll send off for the birth cert and see who is the mother thank you
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Fab linda on a previous post had found violet matilda alexander but looking for any more info is there any way that some one might be able to see,How long they lived there? were there any visitors before or after the birth the birth of violet that stayed there silverdale castle rd east bedfordshire. Walter alexander and Florence alexander had violet matilda alexander living with them on the census as there daughter? just wondered if anyone can help with any extra details trying to find out if they did adopt her or just look after her being part of the family? if anyone can help, thanks Liz
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

I think I muddied the waters!!!
looked on the 1911 and found the following
1911
ALEXANDER, Walter Leonard Head aged 39 born 1872 Portsmouth, Pianoforte Turner
ALEXANDER, Florence Wife (Married 13 years) aged 40 born 1871 Cheltenham
RICKETTS, Violet May Niece aged 13 born 1898 Birmingham VIEW
ALEXANDER, Daisy Judd Adopted Daughter aged 2 born 1909
Address: 26 Osborne Road Weston-Super-Mare

Sorry!
Though sending for that birth cert is a good idea.
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

ladylinda i'd just found out that florence was a ricketts . florence was nee ricketts so they adopted violet from one of her siblings so now need to find birth cert linda thank you its been a nightmare trying to find out about this side of the family :(
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Linda thank you for the help you have been great just now need to work out the connection with margaret matilda alexandra who i thought was her mother who married james alexandra and had violet but she is shown to have been living with greorge richard francis so now totally confused even more so ? because i thought walter being an alexander it was there side as it showing up violet alexander and they had taken her in because james being her father but now it showing she is a rickett means she's from florences side?
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Linda i'm a little confused as why would there be a birth registered on bmd 6d 332 which is the right birth violet matilda alexandra but then violet may ricketts have a diffrent number and is a diffrent year 6d 319 born 1897 ? i've not come across anyone being adopted before so am a little slow with what happens. would this still be the same person?
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Hi Liz,probably not.
I'd apply for the Birmingham one and that will verify if she was Margaret Matilda's daughter,because it should have her mother's maiden name on it.
When I found I had a half-brother,I applied for his birth cert, and that had "adopted" written on it afterwards.
Sorry for any confusion
 
Re: Margaret Matilda Alexander( Neee : Wadlow ) also known as surname Francis?

Linda no need to say sorry you have been great and you still could be right and any help is really welcome, if they weren't so hard to find things would be so much easier.
 
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