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Ada Lashford/Harris

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Sugs73

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Hello,

I'm trying to find details for an Ada Lashford/Harris who lived in n the early 1940s on Coventry Road Small Heath. Thank you so much
 
hi sugs73 we have a section for surname interests so i am moving this thread to there for you...think we may need a bit more info from you about ada..ie when she was born? is lashford her maiden name then became harris ? and what sort of info are you looking for

lyn
 
Morning, yes it's fine to move it. Thank you. Ada was born 1897-1899 in Laburnum Street. Wollaston. She moved to Birmingham at some point, I believe she married William Charles Harris, she had a son (William John Harris) on 25th July 1934. She returned to Wollaston where she died in 1946, or thereabouts. Dad had a half brother, (shared mother) Walter Ronald Lashford, born in March 1921. (However his birth certificate names his Mum is Alice Lashford, not Ada).
 
thanks so so is william john your dad ? and ada your grandmother ?maybe ada was short for alice...have you found her on the 1901 and 1911 census living with her parents..at the min without researching it looks like ada had walter out of wedlock unless of course she was married before oh on the birth cert who is down as walters dad...

lyn
 
1939 reg has them at 708 Coventry Road. There are 3 blanked out entries - children?
William is down as an engine driver (sw region). Ada - as most women seem to be - unpaid domestic duties.

William and Ada are on the eroll in 1935 at the same address. Not all years are on Ancestry but they were not at that address in 1930.
 
Thank you. Does it state how old Walter was? I wonder if Walter was her her son, or her brother? Walter Ronald's father was unknown on his birth certificate. (but Mum was listed as Alice). Thank you for helping me, I'm at a dead end with Ancestry myself.
 
Not sure what you are referring to when you ask about Walter's age. On the eroll he is her Father as per the 2 census records. Her brother seems to be William.
I did look for an Alice but wondered if either she used a different name as he was born out of wedlock or it could be an error - who registered the birth?
Still can't find a marriage for William Charles and Ada but did find his rail employment record. Would have been useful if it had addresses.
 
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Yes it could well be, because he was born out of wedlock. I couldn't find anything relating to a marriage either, but have found an Ada Harris, whom I thought was probably her. The birth certificate I have for Walter Ronald Lashford is dated in the 70's and has Alice listed as a chamois glove maker. I found a record for William Charles Harris working on the railway, which is true.
 
How would I gain access to the eroll please? Ideally would like to know where she was laid to rest. As would like to scatter my Dad's ashes in the same place. (My Dad had no relationship with her at all after the war).
 
bit confused now unless ive missed something...i though walter ronald lashford was born in 1921 not the 1970s

lyn
 
Sugs73 said:
How would I gain access to the eroll please? Ideally would like to know where she was laid to rest. As would like to scatter my Dad's ashes in the same place. (My Dad had no relationship with her at all after the war).
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Eroll is on Ancestry but I posted the entry for you. See post #7.
Difficult to check burial as Worcestershire records aren't on Ancestry.
 
Just discovered that Stourbridge parish records do not come under Worcestershire as Wollaston (and Stourbridge) are not in the diocese. Just trying to find out where they are.
 
Astoness said:
hi you may have missed janices post asking who registered the birth

lyn
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Thank you. Who registered my Uncles Birth? (I'm not sure, I think it was his Mom, I'm assuming so, as Father was unknown). My Dad's birth, I don't know, as haven't found his birth certificate yet.
 
pjmburns said:
1939 reg has them at 708 Coventry Road. There are 3 blanked out entries - children?
William is down as an engine driver (sw region). Ada - as most women seem to be - unpaid domestic duties.

William and Ada are on the eroll in 1935 at the same address. Not all years are on Ancestry but they were not at that address in 1930.
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Thank you, do you know if they were married from this? I think I may have found it too. There probably would have been 3 children, my Dad and his 2 half sisters to (his Dad.) Are we able to fi d out if there were any other Harris or Lashfords on Laburnum Street, as I'm under the impression that Dad's Maternal and Paternal Grandparents, both lived on Laburnum Street, Wollaston.

Dad Lived on Coventry Road Small Heath, (until it was bombed I believe) Dad and his Mom moved to Wollaston to stay with family. Then his Father moved to Tyseley with my Dad. I believe Ada, remained in Wollaston, as she was unwell, and passed away.
 
Sugs73 said:
Thank you. Who registered my Uncles Birth? (I'm not sure, I think it was his Mom, I'm assuming so, as Father was unknown). My Dad's birth, I don't know, as haven't found his birth certificate yet.
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I take it you don't have the birth certificate. I only asked because if she registered it as Alice then it was a deliberate choice. On the other hand someone else might have registered it and made a mistake.
 
Just trying to clarify a few things:
In post #3 you says Walter Ronald's certificate names Alice as his Mother - this cert should also tell you the name of the informant - this might help us find out why the name is given as Alice (might not but you can hope).

I am puzzled why the reply in post #23 refers to the burial of Ada Lashford. I thought she was registered as Ada Harris on the death cert so surely they should be searching for Harris not Lashford.
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As for Ada and William being married the 1939 reg records "status" but only records what the enumerator was told. So if they said married that is what would be recorded. My guess is that they weren't as we can't find a marriage.

If you have found the eroll for Laburnum Street then you can scroll up and down to see if his parents are there.

Finally you say in post #22 you haven't found your dad's birth cert - do you mean amongst his papers or that you haven't found the details to order a copy? I assume this is the one.
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pjmburns said:
I thought Ada's death in 1946 was registered as Ada Harris not Lashford.
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It's all very complicated, it could be either, my Dad didn't think his father ever married his mother, hence my original enquiry to the crem, but paperwork found since, suggested they did marry, but I can't find any records.
 
Did you find a death registration for Ada Lashford?
They may or may not have been married but it still might be worth enquiring about an Ada Harris at the crem.
 
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