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Hi, here is some information about Hallewell Rogers I have gathered together from the newspaper archives - committees he was on and meetings he attended etc. I have found an article dated 1895 in which it mentions a talk he gave about about the Welsh Water Scheme and his visit to Rhyader and...

it sounds as if your gt, gt grandmother suffered quite a lot before she died. It must have been an awful time for the family with two new babies in the house too. I am so pleased the certificate proved that Abraham was the correct baby - well done bewdley! Thanks for sharing the certificates...

Well done bewdley - Abraham is sounding very promising being on the same page!

In 1891 the Family are in Price Street, Smethwick - but David is not with them - he would be about 22 Joseph Palmer - head - married - 67 - Shoemaker - Warwickshire Emile Palmer - wife - 56 - b. Tipton Emanuel Palmer - 36 - labourer - b. Oldbury Joseph Palmer - 15 - apprentice - b. Smethwick...

I have found the 1861 and 1851 for Joseph Palmer with his first wife Mary Ann Not sure if Mary Ann was born Stourport or Stockport as one of the enumerators seems to have made a mistake. 1861 Grove Lane, Smethwick/Harborne/Worcestershire Joseph Palmer – head – 37- shoe maker – b. Warwickshire...

I didn't look at the 1861 census I just quickly checked the 1871 and 1881 for another child the same age as David. If I had checked the 1861 - or bothered to check the ages of the children to Wife Emily I would have realised there must have been another wife - Mary A. How sad she perhaps lost...

I have just found a James Palmer born Jan/feb/march and died Jan/feb/March in 1869 age 0 birth and death registered Kings Norton I think this may be David's twin??? How strange heir hunters mentioned times on birth certs this morning!

It looks like 12 h 55mins pm to me too and as I had just seen heir hunters I looked for a birth/death of a Palmer twin but couldn't find one (that's not to say there isn't one - just I can't find one) David is on 1871 and 1881 with no other child of the same age. Could it be that as the time...

I missed it but I think I'm going to have to find it on catch up after all these comments!!! Charlie, that's so funny :adoration:

Thanks Viv - defintiely something to look forward to!

Death announcements for two Solomon Cutlers which seem to fit the two that leslam mentioned. Birmingham Daily Post Saturday 2nd January 1886 Cutler on the 31st ult. at the residence of his father, Portland Villa, Gravelly Hill age 39 yrs Solomon Cutler Birmingham Daily Post Saturday 9th May...

Peter there is a map showing the sections of Key Hill cemetery on the a Key Hill thread post #11 https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4830 Each section is given a letter and then each grave in that section has a number which is the reference leslam has given you with the...

How lovely the family were eventually reunited. Good luck in the library Lyn :peaceful: I hope you can find the story for Cheryl.

Hi Ian, Here is the info I have for the Edward Quiney of Lichfield Street: Im not the best at reading old writing - so I will get my friend to check it tomorrow and edit if needed :) Edward Quiney, widower married Lucy Avery, widow - 11th June 1835 - Edgbaston This is a possible for his first...

Thanks Mike - I was just wondering because it says John Dodson "late of St Martins Lane" and "Late of Birmingham" but I am assuming this means "used to live here" as otherwise it would say deceased. The money problems may explain why the family were in Painswick, Gloucester on the 1841 - they...

Mike, I thought Edward Quiney - the one who went to Australia may have learnt the trade from his wife Martha - the daughter of John Dodson and Mary Dodson. When Edward married Martha in 1849 his occupation was fancy Steel toy maker and there was a listing in the 1855 directory for Edward...

Mike - thank you so much for finding the newspaper article confirming that John had split up from Mary and was living at 67 High Street Bordesley. I was hoping there may be something in the papers but had been unable to find anything - thank you! it was interesting to see the marriage troubles...

Hi Ian, Glad the information was helpful to you - I cannot take all the credit for it as I had help from a friend :) Something I must point out - when typing the very long post above I meant to state that on the baptism Parish record for Martha her mothers name appears as Ann not Mary -...

I think this is why Martha was working as an Umbrella Maker on the 1851 census From Directories 1818 John Dodson, wood turner, Cheapside 1821 and 1830 Umbrella makers John Dodson, St Martins Lane Umbrella stick makers John Dodson, (and walking) St Martins Lane 1849 John Dodson, Umbrella and...

I believe this is Edward and Martha in 1851 They have a daughter Alice 7 months (there are a few deaths for the name Alice Quiney in 1851/1852 so she may have died). They seem to have a bit of money as they have a house servant but Martha is working (I find that unusual - is it?) In 1851 2...