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    iron founders

    Thank you for alerting me to the later map. Very interesting. I have established that one of the Foundries was first opened by Richard Dearman. Not yet sure about the second one, though. By this time, Dearman was m. to Elizabeth Freeth - dau of Sampson Freeth, Ironmonger (and sister of the...
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    iron founders

    I have just, this morning, been looking at a draft map of 1781 on the Birmingham Library website - ref: Plan of Birmingham Thomas Hanson c.1781 WCRO CR1086/5. This shows an iron Foundry next to the Canal Terminus at Paradise Wharf. Does anyone know who owned that foundry?
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    Hen And Chickens Hotel New Street

    Joseph Hill refers to the Hen & Chickens in his (1907) 'The Old Bookmakers of Birmingham'. He says that when Johnson visited in 1735, the Hen & Chickens was kept by a J. Attwood. He describes it as an old hostelry with a good yard and that it faced the Beast Market. (p.43). It had been renamed...
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    John Wyatt: Birmingham’s Unlucky Genius.

    With regard to Thylacine's query on the illustrations relevant to the weighing machine, I could do with a view of those myself, so have been following up your brilliant lead. It seems most unlikely that the illustrations will surface as they were never part of the documented paperwork. According...
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    St George's Church Newtown

    Hi. I only picked this up today(no idea why!) and I thought it really interesting as my mom and dad were also married at St. Georges - October (10) 1945. Do you know if your parents had the bells rung? Dawn
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    The Old Ship Inn

    Why might a Birmingham Inn in the 17th century have been called 'The Ship'?? A colleague of mine has suggested it could have been Sheep (old diaect)? I can see the logic in that. Any thought??
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    the beehive pub soho hill

    Glad you like it! Late fifties probably does make it the Beehive. It was their 2nd M&B house and they worked hard on improving it. Customers didn't mix. English in one bar, Irish in another, Indians didn't mix with either of them. In the Club room, upstairs, were the West Indians (if you asked...
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    the beehive pub soho hill

    Any old photo? - here is one. I can't verify which pub but it definitely isn't the Navvie or the Free House (layout is wrong). It might be the Beehive or the Ivy Green. I have given a list of the relevant pubs. Dad also 'relieved' many of the pubs between the City Centre and Dudley for Dares...
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    the beehive pub soho hill

    I always thought it was Rea Street but will certainly bow to someone who knows better as I was very young when we moved in (about1953). The license was in Mum's name and Dad, I believe, still drove a (horse-led) milk cart. It was a Dare's house and I know from what mum told me that it was a...
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    the beehive pub soho hill

    Oops (got interrupted!) . Yes the White Horse stood on the corner of MacDonald Street and Rea Street. I have one picture but its not a good one. Dawn
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    the beehive pub soho hill

    Hi sorry I wish I did have a photo of them at the Beehive. The list of pubs is as follows: The White Horse, Macdonald Street The Ivy Green, Edward Street The Navigation, Summer Row The Beehive, Soho Hill The Summerhill Tavern (aka the Free House), Summerhill Road. (STILL standing - a Chinese...
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    the beehive pub soho hill

    Oh that's sad! It was home to me and my sister Diane in the early 60's when Mum and Dad (Ted and Dorn Lloyd) ran it. Mum made a fortune selling 'curried kid' sarnies. The place needed redecorating when we moved in and I was allowed to choose my own wallpaper. I'll have to go and see if I can see...
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    Life in Birmingham 1775 ?

    The bgfl website has been totally revised and access to the John Morris Jones Collection has 'disappeared'. Does anyone have an uptodate link to access this brilliant resource?
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    They Were Caught In Our Old Street Pics...

    Hi, they lived at 2/187 in 1945. I think there were 4 houses in the yard.
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    They Were Caught In Our Old Street Pics...

    It isn't far from bingley hall so i suppose it was possibly a daily walk!!
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    They Were Caught In Our Old Street Pics...

    Trying to be a 'good' wife, I was watching a film with my hubbie (the original boy engineer) on utube the other day: (be warned its 2 hrs). I was becoming a bit sleepy until the following scene came into view (1hr 36:10mins into the film). It is taken on the loop between Suffolk Street...
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    They Were Caught In Our Old Street Pics...

    My mother (Doreen Wright) lived in Brearley street, Hockley - with her mother (Alice) and aunt (Lilian Bradbury). The houses were built up back-to-backs. Nan had a pretty (but small) garden, shared brew house and toilet. They had moved to that house after being bombed out 3 times and Nan would...
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    Weather : past adverse weather in Birmingham

    In 1963, my mid-April birthday party was a bit of a flop due to the snow, which was packed and in drifts about 2ft high on the road - we lived at the Summerhill Tavern at the time. Then in the winter of 1967, when I had left school and was working at the Pru (on Colmore Row) I was sent home as...
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    the beehive pub soho hill

    Very sad news. I used to live there, when my father Edward (Ted) Lloyd held the license. Probably around 1960 - 2 ish. My parents ran several pubs but this was the only pub we had which had a garden! It was an interesting place, with a mix of cultures and none of them mixed. My mum asked the...
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    Wright's Rope Works

    Hi. did you make any progress on finding out the ownership of Wright in the 1770's? I am interested too. Bradford's 1751 map of Birmingham shows a Rope Walk down by the River Rea. By 1778 (Hanson's map), this appears to have become Milk Street. So I am thinking that given the size of the Rope...
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