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Yes please do ask him if he remembers any Tibbattses. Mum says Dad remembered Carl's parents coming round to Oldknow Road when he was a kid. Bookmaking connections I'm guessing: Alice used to run a book for the whole neighbourhood from a biscuit tin in her kitchen :laughing:, which, when it...

Maxwell was a guest in 2010 so probably won't see this though :( Perhaps better not to relive the trauma...

I wonder if Carl knows the spice on the shenanigans at the Rimini/Vulcano/New Rimini ?

@Astoness I think we may both be super sleuths - the shadowy Mr Bundy I marked in the photo without the bus in the way is in the exact spot as the bundy in Carl's photo - outside the house with the plaque high up on the wall, and the mark of where another plaque was removed.

I just edited my post as you wrote, sorry. Sydney tragically died suddenly at 54 in 1968 but Carl's parents might have known him.

What absolute legends. Amazing! Carl Chinn no less. My mum just told me that Carl's dad knew Sydneys parents Harry and Alice, so I wonder if Carl knew Sydney? The lovely shops in the photo too. Was someone upthread saying they were sent to buy ladies unmentionables at a drapers? Was that the one?

Mr Bundy is very elusive, maybe the bad boys of the Vulcano stole him for scrap metal :joy:

OK this is becoming an unhealthy obsession. [Posted on this thread because about the Icknield Street clock and outside Sidney's] In general we know: The freestanding clocks were taller by at least a head than a person They could be facing the pavement or the road. Looking at the 3 photos of...

That's lovely to hear! Thank him for us. My grandad would probably laugh to hear us all chattering about a clock that was so ordinary at the time! Just also popping in a link to an old thread on Icknield Street.

This map would seem to explain clearly the difference between Digbeth and Deritend. It was so simple in 1778.

Here's a Lucas rugby team from some time around 1958. My late dad Alan Tibbatts is front far right, he worked in Great King Street toolroom at the time.

On a circular bus route am I right in thinking the two clocks could theoretically be anywhere on the route? They didn't need to be opposite one another, or even near one another?

I can see something fixed to the wall behind the man, it's got a kind of pointy top. Maybe like this one?

Wow, the Vulcano looks quite innocent, but @Astonian describes it as a hotbed of gang activity and the gaffer was shot! Perhaps he's the geezer up the ladder! Did you go in either?

Wow that's amazing! What book is that? My mom says it was 'dining rooms' because there was also a room upstairs, not sure if it was open all the time or was like a 'function room' type thing. Also, I thought the window was bricked up in that photo, but seeing a higher res one, it looks like it...

In all 3 images, there is a vehicle in the way of the place where the front of the bus would be, so it might be hiding from us. My mom definitely remembers the clock, she said it was because of it that Sydney had the business opportunity to sell the tea.

Here is the image @carolina was trying to post (it's different to the Birmingham images one linked by @Astoness). She says it's early 60s. Thankyou @carolina You can see that the cafe window is bricked up. I must have been wrong about the timeline I think, they must have been there late 50s to...

Yes it's strange, the guest OP in this thread, who mentioned their parents ran the pub, said the buses stopped outside for the drivers to clock in. @Astonian also described "the little cafe out side the clock". Maybe it was on the other side of the road?

:D excellent! Thank you so much! I wonder what that board was on the window. I wonder if that was after they closed it, or it was something they put up after hours for security, given the fights? Also, I'm squinting to see if I can see the clocking in device, but I don't know what it looks like...

Looking at other threads, I wonder if @dib44 @maggs or @BOBJ can help us, it looks like they might have known Sydney's cafe.