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Thanks for that link to other posts, im no longer confused about Albert Street and the Curzon Street Woodman. The 20th Century street name changes were the missing piece of the puzzle!

Good point! Like the Proust quote………

What a shame. My great grandparents were landlords there and I had been planning to visit it in due course when able to. Thanks for posting, it’s better to be aware than have a wasted journey. Harriet

Hi Elaine, thanks for this, although I remain somewhat confused - maybe it’s the heat! I understood the one on Curzon Street was the Duddeston Row one………….? atm I’m not getting how Albert Street fits into the picture, but probably should revisit old maps.

Absolutely agree it will be ants!

Hello, Fabulous saving of the photos! I‘m getting a bit confused about Birmingham pubs called The Woodman. This says The Woodman Albert Street, and there is another thread about The Woodman Duddestone Row. Are these two different pubs or has the street name changed historically? Harriet

No, not Joy, my Grandmother was definitely Ivy, and she was the only girl - but I just checked the 1911 census and it could be read as Joy if you didn’t know any different. And I was astounded when I saw the comment that it would be good if a descendant turned up......... delighted to oblige...

Hi everyone I am one of William George Baggot’s Great Granchildren. He died before I was born, but I have fond memories of his wife Gertrude ‘Granny Baggott’ to me and my cousins. I knew he had The Woodman from the 1911 census when his daughter - my grandmother - was 8 years old, but I didn’t...

Delighted The Woodman will survive HS2. I was so glad to discover that the place my grandmother lived as a child had actually survived, given the rest of the street didn’t. Thank you to everyone for the photos and other info - real finds for my family history research. Hope I might go there one...

Hi everyone, Please can I ask, are The Woodman and the Curzon Street Station due to be demolished for HS2? Harriet

Hello everyone, If this is The Woodman Inn that used to be on Duddeston Row then my Great Grandparents were the landlords in 1911 aged 32 and 28 and my maternal grandmother was 8 years old; and there was a living in servant Emma Haddock age 24.