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    Red Lamp, Hope Street

    My great great grandmother Elizabeth (Betsy) Turland was also living in Hope Street in 1901, at another beerseller's shop at number 54. This was on the south side of the street, two properties east of the School, so within a hundred yards or so of the Red Lamp. I think the shop was probably not...
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    Turland, Betsy Or Elizabeth

    Many thanks for this. I'm not a native of Birmingham, and am not familiar with all the places. You are right, it is Aston!
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    Turland, Betsy Or Elizabeth

    I am too, but the genetics are being done by one of the Richard III team, using a specific matching methodology. I expect to find absolutely no link to anything royal, and a debunking of a longstanding family legend! One of Robert's direct ancestors on his mother's side was a 'Smith' so it...
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    Turland, Betsy Or Elizabeth

    Apologies, a slip on the keyboard. I meant to say 'she' married twice! Great feedback from everyone.
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    Turland, Betsy Or Elizabeth

    Thanks for this thought. Yes, I am also pursuing other apparent coincidences in the life of Robert Smith Grant, some of which appeared in an article in Who Do You Think You Are? magazine in April this year. I have attached pdfs for your interest. Currently the genetics are being looked at as...
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    Turland, Betsy Or Elizabeth

    Thanks for responding. I didn't have access to all of these Directories, though I had checked some. I can't find Joseph's wife in the 1891 census on Ancestry, though, because I can't find Curzon Street. I wonder if you could kindly point me to the right place? Son Henry Samuel Sheffield was born...
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    Turland, Betsy Or Elizabeth

    Many thanks, that's interesting but I can't find her on Ancestry...can you assist, please? So he married twice, I guess. Do you know the first wife's maiden name, please?
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    Turland, Betsy Or Elizabeth

    My 2x Great Grandmother Elizabeth (Betsy) Turland (born Elizabeth Grant 1847, Great Glen, Leicestershire) lived at 54 Hope Street, Birmingham in 1901 with the Sheffield family - Joseph Sheffield (a publican born in Nuneaton), his father and his young son. Mrs Sheffield had evidently died...
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    Grant Street

    Grant Street was, from old maps, clearly built before 1866, but who was Grant? Or was it a reference to some allocation of funding?
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