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  1. Lloyd

    trouble for the postman ?

    I wonder if it was a mapper's error? What is the map date?
  2. Lloyd

    Electric Trams

    Another Ray Coxon photo of 342 at Bearwood, almost certainly taken at the same time. That's his bike propped up by the kerb, far right - it often appeared in his photos.
  3. Lloyd

    Electric Trams

    You are quite right. The transport committee decreed that buses should not carry adverts, although trams could. The tramway closure in 1953 ended a very necessary source of income, so the instruction was ended a short while after. Perhaps previously buses were for a better class of passenger?
  4. Lloyd

    Steam Locos

    Why does this not surprise me?!
  5. Lloyd

    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    What's OK, that no new construction is approved? Our railways, motorways, hospitals and schools enter a stasis for the next century or so? At least tax can be reduced if there's nothing new to pay for.
  6. Lloyd

    The challenges of Building Railways

    If you look at the difference in time and relative cost of building the original railways compared to HS2 (for instance), you must also look at the methods involved. Labour was cheap, there was no dole so those needing money to live had to work for pittance pay. there were skilled engineers who...
  7. Lloyd

    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    I think every 'national construction plan's cost is deliberately under estimated, be it railway, motorway, hospital, school or whatever. if the true cost were to be announced at the outset, absolutely nothing would get approved.
  8. Lloyd

    Electric Trams

    The strange appearance of car 342's upper deck ends was because it was the corporation's prototype conversion of open balcony cars to fully enclosed ones. Later versions had far more glass. I imagine this is a just pre WW2 photo, as the tram and pavement kerb have the white markings, but the...
  9. Lloyd

    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    No there isn't, but what if you'd have succeeded - the M6 would be miles away, the main road to Sutton, Lichfield Derby and north of there would still be through Aston Cross, and the many industries that rely on the motorway network for supply and delivery would be established in other places...
  10. Lloyd

    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    I do feel disappointed in the way this thread has turned. As its title suggests, it is for information on the progress to the new line, not a soap box for naysayers and nimbys. Perhaps there should be other boards for those who dislike the routes the city's progress is taking, I know there are...
  11. Lloyd

    Henry Garner

    Many other photos of Garner trucks can be seen here: https://www.flickr.com/groups/1763711@N23/pool/
  12. Lloyd

    Electric Trams

    The 34 was unusual as it was a route number used both for a tram service and its replacement bus service. I would assume that the bus service therefore used the same route (via Bristol Road & Holloway Head) and stops as the trams did.
  13. Lloyd

    Steam Locos

    View of a train of Prosser's Patent Guide Wheel Carriages. Note the keeper wheels, angled at about 45 degrees, which replaced the flanges and kept the locos and wagons on the flat wooden rails. The trackwork was noted as costing about half that of a normal "Steel Road", but doubtless would have...
  14. Lloyd

    Electric Trams

    Navigation Street, Stephenson Street would be to the left and Hill Street to the right. Note the overall roof to the LNWR side of New Street Station, destroyed by bombs in WW2. Note also the shelter is not a permanent structure and consists of two units, sitting on the roadway leaving the...
  15. Lloyd

    New Street Station From 1854 - 1966

    Originally D3839 was built at Crewe works and entered traffic in January 1960, allocated to Carnforth MPD. By 1962 it had transferred to the Birmingham area initially at Monument Lane MPD and then Bescot (where it would remain until withdrawn in 1993) when Monument Lane closed. It became 08 672...
  16. Lloyd

    Few Old Bikes

  17. Lloyd

    Few Old Bikes

    Here's your chance...
  18. Lloyd

    Motorcycle - How To Find My Old One

    I know I answered this in 2012, but there's an update. Still not taxed since end Jan 1989, but new V5 (log book) issued 2 May 2017, which suggests a change of owner or owner's address.
  19. Lloyd

    Transport Companies in Birmingham.

    More likely shaking his head at the madness on the roads today! When I was starting my bus driving career at Midland Red, Digbeth, there was an old driver who had in his earlier days been a steam lorry driver, and I got a few stories out of him. One was about him speeding along the Chester...
  20. Lloyd

    Birmingham International Station

    Amazing to think that a place this new already has its own history of its past. I've been there a few times, but had forgotten when it looked like this!
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