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Hi Ewan The earliest E-Roll for Brum online is 1912, there are no others, it would need someone to go to the library for the years you need info from and there are none to purchase on disc as far as i know. I would suggest you contact the library on the link below --...

The Electoral Roll for Brum are held at Central Library in what is now called Archives and Heritage Service , it used to be known as the Local Studies and History area, this is free. Follow this link and have read to get a basic idea of E-Rolls...

Re: William Isaiah Clive 1871 Name:Edward Clive Age:3 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868 Relation:Son Mother's Name:Mary Gender:Male Where born:West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Civil parish:West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch Town:West Bromwich County/Island:Staffordshire...

Re: William Isaiah Clive 1881 Census -- Name:Edward Clive Age:13 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868 Relation:Son Mother's Name:Mary Gender:Male Where born:West Bromwich Civil parish:West Bromwich County/Island:Staffordshire Country:England Street Address:12 Messenger Lane Occupation:Spring...

Re: William Isaiah Clive Hi Stefan, welcome to the forum bren

Have just looked at the 1920 E-Roll and Ernest & Leah Smith living 9, court 47, New John Street West bren

Here's another possible birth for you -- Florence Smith mmn Ashford 3rd qtr 1921 Birmingham 6d 681 Your theory sounds quite plausable, you may find more going through the Electoral Rolls at the library, once you have found them you can track them through the years. If they all disappear...

This could be another younger brother -- Albert Smith mmn Ashford 4th qtr 1918 Birmingham 6d 340 bren

Disregard the others, got myself mixed up -- William Smith mmn Ashford 2nd qtr 1914 Birmingham 6d 525 Have you tried this one ? bren

The 1911 Census was taken on the 2nd of April, Samuel's age was given as 3yrs so that is correct, he would have been 4yrs in May. Ernest and Leah are recorded as being married 8yrs, that would be 1903, age for Ernest 29yrs, his 30th probably after April. Leah 27yrs on Census so born 1884 etc...

Re: William Isaiah Clive Messenger Lane is just up the road from Overend Street, looked on Google Earth, looks like there are no buildings there now, looks more like a wide path with bushes lining it bren

This looks like the family in 1911, William not born yet ? Name:Relationship to head:Marital Status:Years married:Sex:Age in 1911:Occupation:Where born: SMITH, ERNEST HEAD MARRIED M 29 HAWKER WARWICKSHIRE BIRMINGHAM SMITH, LEAH WIFE MARRIED 8 YRS F 27 WARWICKSHIRE BIRMINGHAM SMITH, ALFRED...

Do you have any other info re William, was he younger or older than Samuel, did he have a middle name, every little helps bren

Re: William Isaiah Clive 1891 Census -- Name:Edward Clive Age:23 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Emma Mother's Name:Mary Gender:Male Where born:West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Civil parish:West Bromwich Ecclesiastical parish:Christchurch...

Re: William Isaiah Clive Overend Sreet stillexists, runs off the High Street W.Brom, comes out by Queens Square. bren

Re: William Isaiah Clive Marriage Edward Clive/Emma Head 1st qtr 1890 W.Bromwich 6b 886 bren

Re: William Isaiah Clive 1901, mis-transcribed, clearly Clive on image and William I not S Name:Edward Clere Age:33 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1868 Relation:Head Spouse's Name:Emma Gender:Male Where born:West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England Civil parish:West Bromwich Ecclesiastical...

Re: William Isaiah Clive 1911 Census, address as per army records CLIVE, EMMA HEAD WIDOW F 42 born BIRMINGHAM CLIVE, LILLIAN M DAUGHTER F 13 WOOD CHOPPER WESTBROMWICH STAFFS CLIVE, HENRY SON M 10 SCHOOL WESTBROMWICH STAFFS CLIVE, EMMA S DAUGHTER F 5 SCHOOL WESTBROMWICH STAFFS...

Re: William Isaiah Clive According to his army records his mothers name was Emma bren

Re: William Isaiah Clive Hi peter Name:William Isaiah Clive Year of Registration:1895 Quarter of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec District:West Bromwich County:Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire Volume:6b Page:852