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Depends where you look I expect. Earlswood,Red Lion was almost on its way out when Digby took it over in '82.Now a very busy pub,and has been ever since he got it.He also did the same for the Black boy Knowle.Certainly if you radiate out from the Shirley/Solihull routes you'll see all kinds of...

Well pointed out John,licences are easily got now,and of course pubs can't compete with cheap booze offers.In fact if Brighton is like Margate many bars have simply gone. The 24 hours licence is also a valid point.Easy to forget that many backstreeters survived on 'afters' trade,often full with...

Stitcher you're right about bad management,and this thread is about ideas on how to run pubs in the right way,may be controversial,but open and honest debate has always been prone to that. Ann B,welcome to the world of new labour PC lol,the Rainbow is a classic example of how an inner city...

Funny thing,but a lot of the bingo halls have now gone,but the cinemas came back into vogue in the 80s. Was in the New Street Odeon the other day,quite busy,and they've certainly opened a few more around the place. My point is that things can be done,and in some areas pubs have done stuff,eg...

Would certainly agree,but only some,what about the rest? How can they rejuvinate?

https://www.birminghammail.net/news/birmingham-news/2009/04/29/cannabis-farm-found-over-pub-97319-23500414/ Seems there was a big drugs bust,they were growing cannabis in the flat above. Not it seems actually connected to the people who run the pub,but not exactly good for publicity either.

You sure she wasn't called Atilla?:D

Saving our Inner-city Pubs A lot of us are interested in the pubs we remember from our youth.A lot of these are in inner-city areas.Many have already closed,many more are at risk of following them.The question is what can be done to save them? Thirty years ago country pubs were in the same...

Tysley Working mens club sounds about right.Still there as I passed it last week. When I worked at the Brit down the road I knew the stewards son,but cant remember his name.He'd been there from the mid 70s,unusual for a steward.

Some good reasons there Big Gee,and don't forget smoking,and the recession...and government taxes,minimum wages et al....lots of reasons put together. On a positive note country pubs reinvented themselves very well,and to some extent so have town centre pubs.Can the inner city pubs do the same?

Rose Tavern - Sparkbrook Not been in here for 21 years,but it's still hanging in there,and given the area that's quite an achievement.

The Bear - Sparkhill Still hanging on,not yet a curry house,and not even a car wash...but then again having no car park lol. Once a great name in Brummy pubs,but time moves on.

The Shakespeare - Summer Row Seems this pub has been on the up for a few years now. I used it while at the college of food back in the later 80s.Was a bit run down then.Quiet on evenings,run as a tennancy,relying mainly on college lunch trade. The row of shops included a sex shop,and was...

Well they are a stone's throw from the centre,and a good size at 3 stories high. Can't say anything about the condition,don't think there's any garden either,but not a bad price when you compare what you'd pay for a flat in a similar area,or a house the same size elsewhere.

Astoness,wonderful pics,and going crawling through some pretty rough stuff to get them makes them even more important,as we're not likely to see a repeat of that. Yes nostalgia can make a shoddly built place into an historical nicety,but it is nice to keep examples of your history,just so we...

The Hampton - Great Hampton Row Think I heard somewhere this was involved in a drugs bust. Another classic pub boarded up:cry: Another part of the area's history at risk.

The White Horse Cellars - Constitution Hill A pub I'm very fond of,but surprisingly know little about. My great uncle founded the tyre firm over the road.I grew up with both parents working there,or close by.In fact I worked near there part time from 77-83.I visited it on a number of...

Thanks for the old pic pmc1947,seems they've done up the outside with plastering etc...not a brick in sight now.

You're not the first to mention Margate lol. Actually I'm in Cliftonville,near the Bellvue pub.My locals if any in Margate are the old 'Good Intent',and Wetherspoons the 'Mechanical Elephant' on the Front,near the station.

Thanks pmc1947,that is indeed the pub,but of course the area had changed by the early 80s.Be interested to know about when that pic was taken,any ideas?