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  1. Heartland

    Metro Progress 2022

    Had the metro plans proceeded without interruption the West Midlands Metro could be open to Five Ways and yet there is stagnation with trams running from St Georges to Bull Street, providing that no cars break down or crash with the trams on road section, which has been a recent problem. The...
  2. Heartland

    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    The work at Curzon Street at present is a hive of activity as the foundations for the new station are put together and some contractors are still busy with moving services. HS 2 talk of planning for the Bromford Tunnel at present and work has started on the Green Tunnels, a modern work for cut...
  3. Heartland

    Private Railways In Birmingham

    The gasworks railways are shown to serve Windsor Street (left) Nechells (centre) and Saltley All made town gas using retorts that were modified and improved over time. Saltley also had a coke oven- see my chapter in Workshop of the World p 55- 77, Sutton Publishing 2006. Adderley Street...
  4. Heartland

    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    I personally am trying to find out if the cost of HS 2 phase 1 is rising compared to the present estimate published in October of a target set at £40 billion. Phase 2a is set at between £5-7 billion presently Meanwhile work has been started by three tunnel boring machines so far (out of 10) and...
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    Moseley Kings Heath Line

    The two new curves to Moor Street featured in the recently published Integrated Rail Plan report, which has limited vision for rail travel in Birmingham as well as curtailing the extent of HS 2 Regarding Camp Hill and the name, this railway was built for the Birmingham & Gloucester Railway and...
  6. Heartland

    Some old pictures of Birmingham canals

    Bratch Locks were built for James Brindley as a proper staircase of 3 locks. They were reconstructed by Thomas Dadford with the short side pounds.
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    How information was handled on the Railways

    Information distribution improved in the 1970;s and 1980;s. For those travelling by train the Travel Centres gained in that respect with computerised CRS for seat and sleeper reservations. The Continental Office used computers for car ferry booking and they also had a telex and reservations for...
  8. Heartland

    Curzon Street Hotel

    Lawley Street was NFC, but the Freightliner Depot should be regarded as a separate entity, having various owners. Presently it is owned by an American company who operate the UK Freightliner business. The ariel view is useful, Viv, which shows the view from Top Yard looking to the offices and...
  9. Heartland

    Canals of Birmingham

    The date for the Old Wharf image is 1913/4 when the formers offices had been demolished and new buildings were erected on their site. At this time coal could have come from a variety of pits including Sandwell Park and Hampstead. There was important traffic from the various pits on the Wyrley &...
  10. Heartland

    Curzon Street Hotel

    If I recall RAIL HOUSE became Quayside Tower later. As to Snow Hill, I also gather that the Railway had offices in Lloyd House for a time, whilst they sorted out the organisation in the 1960's. The transfer of the former Western Region premises in the Birmingham area to London Midland happened...
  11. Heartland

    Steam Locos

    When did a locomotive become a locomotive that is the question. Here in the Midlands we had Agenoria which worked on a level section of track between inclines much like in the North East, but early forms of steam traction there had another term the travelling engine, to distinguish them from...
  12. Heartland

    Snow Hill Station

    I see post 868 has been corrected by post 875 As the image of the two locomotives heading the Cambrian Coast Express is at Berwyn Station., beside the River Dee. The Cambrian Coast Express, in BR days, travelled by Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury where the train reversed to use the former...
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    Curzon Street Hotel

    Yes the road way for contractors vehicles presently. In the days of the working Parcels Depot, the Rail Express Vehicles would park there. In the days of the Queens Hotel, it is not clear whether the archeological studies have looked at how the hotel was arranged with visitors rooms, staff...
  14. Heartland

    Curzon Street Hotel

    Just to add to this thread, the name of the building can be linked to the Queens Hotel. There were various company meetings held here as well as other services such as inquests. In 1850 Robert Bacon was the hotel keeper and his name was on the 1851 census as can be seen on the three attached pages,
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    Curzon Street Hotel

    The restoration of the surviving station building started on September 02nd. After seeing many references to the structure as being the London and Birmingham Railway station building, an observation which must be made is that it served as part of the operation of the railway, where in reality...
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    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    Meanwhile work goes on to build the first phase, Tunnel boring machines are at work, contractors at Curzon Street labour to relocate all the services and the route is gradually been laid out along the length. It took from 1824 to 1838 to get the first London and Birmingham Railway built as well...
  17. Heartland

    The Explosion at Curzon Street

    On November 7th, 1850 , early in the morning, a goods train left Curzon Street and started to cross the Viaduct over the Rea, There was an explosion that demolished an arch. A subsequent Board of Trade enquiry tried to discover the cause. The inspector looked at the possibility of marsh gas...
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    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    That goods shed over the road was Top Yard, and there was a level crossing across Curzon Street. There were also stables, and if I recall were listed. But the listing was over turned to make the new Millenium Point.
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    Curzon Street Railway Station

    The drawing of above of the station appeared in the Illustrated London News June 3rd 1854 when the station called Grand Central opened. The passenger service operated by the LNWR was transferred to this station from Curzon Street on June 1. The Midland trains followed a month later. The Curzon...
  20. Heartland

    The Brunel Iron Bridges on the Birmingham to Wolverhampton Railway

    This is the opinion which I have formed as well Regarding the locomotive on the ballast train that passed over at the time the Winson Green Bridge collapsed, the Wolverhampton Chronicle named this as the DREADNOUGHT, which was a broad gauge six coupled doubled frame loco built at Swindon in...
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