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See my other post on the Shooting Club. Possibly the same person featured in both photographs. This image is another curious item. Why such a long line of brewery vehicles? If it really was May Day then perhaps they were on their way to some sort of procession/carnival? The New Inns had not long...

The photograph of the Shooting Club is intriguing. The Billy Cock hats were more of a Victorian fashion than Edwardian and there is some transition in this image. A few straw boaters and caps are more like the early Edwardian period. Arthur Wade Edge is listed as the licensee in the early 20th...

Kelsey's didn't have too many pubs in Birmingham, the Trees on Bath Row probably the most notable. This house in Heneage Street was the Shepherd and Shepherdess.

Mike, I don't log in that often, generally when I have got something to post. I have just clocked your message. Perhaps e-mail me if urgent! It looks like an offie in the pic. It was M&B in the Edwardian period. The 1906 rate book shows no name - generally they did enter the house name. By the...

I have a virtual tour of Alma Street now at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/alma-street/

Did anybody buy their knickers from Florence Uebersax? https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/alma-street/index.html#Florence-Uebersax

I have squeezed a poster into a page at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/allison-street/ is there a theatre buff on the forum who knows about this place? The poster is 184 years-old which is nice.

I have discussed the tall building looming over this court at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/allison-street/

Posted some pics and post-war licensees at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/albion-street/george-and-dragon.htm

Could I be a pedant and ask a moderator to change the title of this thread to Carpenters' Arms - Adelaide Street. I have uploaded some info on this place at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/adelaide-street/carpenters-arms.htm Cheers, Kieron

Oh dear, I have spotted many errors in the captions. On a technical note, I think the forum may receive complaints when publishing entire books which may still be in copyright.

After receiving a nice pic, I did a little on these two firms, though I do not know why the brothers established separate firms? Anyway, if of interest my blurb is at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/ashted-row/index.html#Baines

Thanks for posting this. I have a few of these plans for the Black Country and they are very useful. Most were produced for discussion at board meeting during which members could visually check on the competition and viability of any future business. The licensing justices would also have such a...

Oh, I must have misread the question as we are straying outside of old Birmingham and into the 'hinterlands'. Like the Old Crown, the Green Man was not always a pub, though it was licensed by 1802, perhaps earlier? Regarding the Great Stone Inn, one should use 'formerly' rather than 'originally'...

Well, it is not the Old Crown at Deritend. The building may be old but not as a licensed tavern. If we are talking about a pub still trading then it has to be one of the building's left alone whilst many were being rebuilt in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Something like ...

I have done some work on all of these pubs. I must have got side-tracked [again] as I only have the early years of the Fox on my site. Must try to put them all on soon : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/hurst-street/fox-inn.htm

Thanks for the feedback and I am pleased that you found something interesting. BTW I suspect that Joseph Wallis moved to the Spring Gardens from the New Inn on Bromsgrove Street. I certainly have a Joseph Wallis there in 1803 and 1810.

I don't think there is a complete set of books etc., but a good deal of material is on Ancestry. Not that easy to find some people however!

I have uploaded some information on this photograph at : https://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/birmingham/high-street-saltley/adderley-arms.htm - quite an important bit of social history.