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    George Hudson - Conviction 1863 and sent to Woking Prison

    Hi - does anyone know of why someone convicted in BIrmingham would be sent to Woking prision.. It appears to be some sort of Invalid Prison. My Ancestor of interest George Hudson was a Sword Polisher prior this conviction but appears to have lost arm - Im assuming this is why he was sent to...
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    Swanshurst Girls’ School

    I did wonder if she was that way inclined. I hated showers after gym in the first year after gym, we would all run through like sheep, it was communal, highly embarrassing and miss bragger was always rushing us through. I don’t think this would be allowed now. I don’t remember having to do...
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    Swanshurst Girls’ School

    was there 1981-1988, when it was just plain old swanshurst girls school. Uniform was bottom green, jumper and skirt with a white shirt and a tie. year 4 you could were a grey jumper. And year 5 you could were all grey. I never had a blazer. In the sixth form which was mixed sex you could wear...
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    Esther Hudson

    Agreed. Looks like it was sudden whatever it was,. bread street is not too far from Latimer street. I’m off to the archives soon. Maybe I’ll find more if the coroners records are available
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    Esther Hudson

    Had the Death Cert for William Hudson. Died 2 bread Street within 5 minutes according to the coroner. Will need to go to Birmingham. Certain its My William but the address is not the home location. Would this be his work location? If so is there any info on Bread street in 1863. Assuming...
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    Esther Hudson

    Ive take this as far as I can with online records. Planning a trip now to the Birmingham Archives in Sept for the 1. Assize records for George Hudson Sr and Jr - court records etc Would like the trial info. 2. Workhouse records for George Jr - wrt amputation of arm. Cant see has access /...
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    Esther Hudson

    Its not in the 1858 article. But in a later article for breaching Sunday trading rules - August 11 1860 Birmingham Daily Post
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    Esther Hudson

    I found reference to a glasscutters arms on hill street in the newspaper for 1860 - the landlord got done for trading in Sunday!! It’s just a passing mention, amongst other pubs which also got fined. But it makes more sense if George sr was travelling down hill street to go there. I did...
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    Esther Hudson

    There was a glassmakers arms on granville street, which is fairly close to hill street, almost spitting distance. Certainly closer to tindal street / latimer street. The issue I have now is I dont know if the newspaper report is george sr or george jr, getting drunk and causing havoc. Feels like...
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    Horseshoe tunnel

    I did my work experience at Pineapple Jr and Infact school in the mid 1985. I was a Swanshurst Girl and my best friend at the time lived on Allens Croft so spent a lot of time that side, although I lived the other side of Kings Heath. Her family was a little rough around the edges so to speak...
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    Horseshoe tunnel

    Oh and I remember teh glue sniffers. They always had that acne look around their mouths and left their empty plastic bags on the floor in the gully between the estate and Kings Road. Now that was creepy at night.
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    Horseshoe tunnel

    I had a friend who lived on Allens Croft in the 1980s and regularly used to walk through that tunnel. Defo was creepy and would imagine creepier at night. My grandparents lived that estate in Reeves Road, and remember waldrons moor and dawberry fields very well. At the back of their garden...
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    Esther Hudson

    Found him. Sent to Woking prison in November 1864 which was an invalid prison. Convicted of house breaking and larceny. So more intriguing about when he lost his arm. You wouldn’t be a sword polisher grinder with only one arm. So 1863 would have been the year at some point. It was also the...
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    Esther Hudson

    I not u ☺️
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    Esther Hudson

    Yes there are 2. I know it’s him due to the 1 arm reference . Not found anything similar for 1863 as ye. But u will look later today.
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    Esther Hudson

    Baker is one of the Magistrates. From my research so far, He first got into serious trouble 1858 - on and off scuffles with his dad - 1 month correction 1859 - Stealing Caps - let off with 3 days jail time due to good character references from his employers (Sword makers so would have had both...
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    Esther Hudson

    As promised. the man appeared to be be a menace. Lots of information in the birmingham post. If I looked for just referenced one armed man - Id probably find more. But this is a detailed descriptipn of the 1887 arrest. The 1874 I have some info - but that was a scam whereby they used bad coin...
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    Esther Hudson

    Thank you so much. I found a detailed report of his arrest which I’ll upload tomorrow based on Wilton street. Which he played on the I have only one arm, I’m not involved defence which was unsurprisingly disbelieved. I cant find reference to heaton street which I was more interested in is...
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    Esther Hudson

    Where did you get Wilton street and heaton street reference please ?
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    Esther Hudson

    Any idea where Ann Street would be. Tried to look up the Coal Hole but have drawn a blank,
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