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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    Her last child Esther was born in 1851 I think So I think unlikely, possible but unlikely. Plus she was separated from George. I am more inclined to think stress / poverty related illness, or lung issues statistically. She died in February so I’m thinking very wet, rough and cold. Probably...
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    I really don’t think there is one. I’m not sure I’ll ever solved the mystery of why she died in brass street. All I can think of it was the address she lived with her kids, and they moved to Latimer street after her death. George was living apart at this time, He would have been responsible...
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    No. Elizabeth was Mary Ann’s illegitimate daughter who was born in the workhouse infirmary. she was the reason I connected the family to Tyndall street and tied up some research concerning the crimes of George jr on the back of that. Elizabeth died of mealses in June 1863, a month after her...
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    But it’s an. Interesting theory that they kept it from the younger members of the family. They were dealing with a lot in 1862/3. By April 1863 William was dead, his daughter died a month later and by 1867, Priscilla herself died in the workhouse infirmary.
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    He’s definitely dead and it was the right person, Not sure why he did this, I’d have to go recheck the record. But the death certificate for George senior, was registered by Priscilla Hudson, Latimer street, which is correct. She was the wife of the eldest son William and the address is...
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    When I was last there,they had moved the office from woodthorpe end to the new site by ickneild road?? Which is kings Heath /kings Norton way
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    Thank you for this. If they are reinterred at brandwood, I could take a trip down to there as it’s not far from my mothers, and see what information they hold and where
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    Thank you I would appreciate this. Her name was Esther Hudson nee baker Born around 1815 (baptised at st martins 21st of September of that year. Death unknown date but buried 5th feb 1860 at holy trinity church bordesley. Abode brass street. Age 44 Her husband George died 28th July 1860...
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    Id like to know that too, there must have been a public / paupers graves. My ancestors werent rich and the period 1857-1863 was a period of chaos for the family. The husband and wife were living separated and she died in 1860 and was buried here and he died a few months later (probably picked...
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    Thank you Janice. So if the graves themselves were not removed they are likely continually "disturbed" due to continuous traffic over the graves from the duel carriageway. This is absolutely appalling on every level and definitely not what RIP means. I think another trip into Birmingham...
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    Thats awful. I have Gt Gt Gt grandparents who were buried there. I quite live to know that they are still at rest. Is nothing sacred???
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    Holy Trinity Church Bordesley.

    Hi - looking for help. I dont live in Birmingham now, so cant travel in as much as Id like. Mt Gt Gt Gt Grandmother Esther Hudson was buried at Holy Trinity Bordesley, Birmingham in 1860. Does the Church Yard / graves still exist or have been moved. I'm assuming she would have been buried in...
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    Esther Hudson

    I didnt find much at the archives. Im now of the opinion after reviewing the timeline that it was George jr who was the one causing trouble. Sr was a drunk for sure and had left the maritial home by 1858, and the chaos on the family is clear. The 1857 newspaper clip is the only clear...
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    Warstone Lane Cemetery

    Thank you so much
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    Moor Green connections to Hockley??

    Thank you. They were in this general area until 1822 until they moved to Moor Green (Moseley/Stirchley way) where the father must have got a job in one of the factories/workshops dealing with sword grinding / polishing. certainly a better area to bring up his growing family I think at the time.
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    Moor Green connections to Hockley??

    Should have done a search here - now hangmans lane now know as Great Hampton Row - area fits. Hall Street and Bagot Street are also in the general locale. certainly within walking distance.
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    Moor Green connections to Hockley??

    Hi - does anyone have any maps of St Phillips area for baptism catchment please. I am keen to understand where Hangmans Lane was (for my direct ancestor George Hudson Born 1816 - baptised 1822 @ st phillips and also Bagot street and Hall street. Would appreciate any help or at least a point...
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    George Hudson - Conviction 1863 and sent to Woking Prison

    So much death, and bad luck Was too much for one family to bear. By 1864. This family was decimated. I just want to know now about health care in this period. The workhouse records did not start /. Useful for the years in question. so if he lost his arm in sept 1863 and it was an...
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    George Hudson - Conviction 1863 and sent to Woking Prison

    Yes I know. I just hate the mystery. 1863 was a bad year for this family.
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    George Hudson - Conviction 1863 and sent to Woking Prison

    Thank you all. Yes that's what I have already about this rogue. I want to find out where I can find out how lost his arm and where. I know where He was working at the time of the arrest for Messrs Reeves sword makers. But he was committed to Woking which was some sort of special prison for...
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