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(Hi Vivienne. Paid my subscription.) Birmingham & Aston Chronicle | Saturday 10 November 1888 The clip below proves that the central lamp-post at Villa Cross (in front of the inn) did not exist at the above date. The photo therefore could have been taken before 10/11/1888. It also shows that...

Well, would you believe it! I've never come across those articles before. The Lancashire Evening Post! It just shows that it pays to cast your net far and wide. I had been looking at only Birmingham papers for the lamps. But everything about the formation of the club intrigues me. That's good...

Hi Vivienne 14. Thanks for that. Yes, Heathfield Road is the accepted positioning of the lamp. Trevor Fisher gave a talk at the central library 10 4 2012. After the crowds have gone | Trevor Fisher . He states that Jack Hughes, one of the four founders, wrote in the Sunday Mercury, 9th...

To Kieron (Aston Villas) :eek:

To Astoness :sun:

Excellent. Just searched for it. Aston Manor Local Board 1869 to 1911. Definitely the right time frame. (Yes, Mr William Graham is most likely to be the tea and coffee merchant.)

Hi to all following this thread. Much of the searching you all have done has been confirmed by Kieron of www.midlandspubs.co.uk. He emailed me the following: "In my humble opinion I think around 1890 is not too far off the mark. I think I can see the name of Barker, a grocer at No.231 at this...

Thanks Lyn. No need to post the image. 1890 again.

Hi, Lyn, thanks. Is that the Fox Co's ENTIRE photo or the Holt Cos/John Ogden photo. Have you got a link to the site you got if from? Dave

Yes I've been along those threads. I particularly liked the ironroom article. My quest at the moment is to determine if the first photo of Villa Cross - Fox Co's. Entire. - is the earliest. From the first time I saw it I had a hunch that it might be because it's the only one lacking a street...

Oh dear. My hopes are dashed. But thanks so much for showing me the error of my ways. It's really kind of you to help out a mad Villa fan whom you've never even met. For the moment then I just want to determine if the photo in yesterday's post really is the earliest photo and if so to date it...

Thanks for that, Mike. Is there a way to find the years for which the building was definitely called the Villa Cross Inn? We know it was in1867. Do you know if it's name change to the Villa Cross Tavern in 1879 as stated in the link?

Hi Mikejee. Are you certain of the dates? Another website states that it was called the Villa Cross Tavern by 1879. https://billdargue.jimdofree.com/placenames-gazetteer-a-to-y/places-v/villa-cross/ Resource Details - Birmingham Images The photo above shows it as the Villa Cross Inn. If these...