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    Canals of Birmingham

    The date for the Old Wharf image is 1913/4 when the formers offices had been demolished and new buildings were erected on their site. At this time coal could have come from a variety of pits including Sandwell Park and Hampstead. There was important traffic from the various pits on the Wyrley &...
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    Curzon Street Hotel

    If I recall RAIL HOUSE became Quayside Tower later. As to Snow Hill, I also gather that the Railway had offices in Lloyd House for a time, whilst they sorted out the organisation in the 1960's. The transfer of the former Western Region premises in the Birmingham area to London Midland happened...
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    Steam Locos

    When did a locomotive become a locomotive that is the question. Here in the Midlands we had Agenoria which worked on a level section of track between inclines much like in the North East, but early forms of steam traction there had another term the travelling engine, to distinguish them from...
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    Snow Hill Station

    I see post 868 has been corrected by post 875 As the image of the two locomotives heading the Cambrian Coast Express is at Berwyn Station., beside the River Dee. The Cambrian Coast Express, in BR days, travelled by Wolverhampton and Shrewsbury where the train reversed to use the former...
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    Curzon Street Hotel

    Yes the road way for contractors vehicles presently. In the days of the working Parcels Depot, the Rail Express Vehicles would park there. In the days of the Queens Hotel, it is not clear whether the archeological studies have looked at how the hotel was arranged with visitors rooms, staff...
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    Curzon Street Hotel

    Just to add to this thread, the name of the building can be linked to the Queens Hotel. There were various company meetings held here as well as other services such as inquests. In 1850 Robert Bacon was the hotel keeper and his name was on the 1851 census as can be seen on the three attached pages,
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    Curzon Street Hotel

    The restoration of the surviving station building started on September 02nd. After seeing many references to the structure as being the London and Birmingham Railway station building, an observation which must be made is that it served as part of the operation of the railway, where in reality...
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    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    Meanwhile work goes on to build the first phase, Tunnel boring machines are at work, contractors at Curzon Street labour to relocate all the services and the route is gradually been laid out along the length. It took from 1824 to 1838 to get the first London and Birmingham Railway built as well...
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    The Explosion at Curzon Street

    On November 7th, 1850 , early in the morning, a goods train left Curzon Street and started to cross the Viaduct over the Rea, There was an explosion that demolished an arch. A subsequent Board of Trade enquiry tried to discover the cause. The inspector looked at the possibility of marsh gas...
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    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    That goods shed over the road was Top Yard, and there was a level crossing across Curzon Street. There were also stables, and if I recall were listed. But the listing was over turned to make the new Millenium Point.
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    Curzon Street Railway Station

    The drawing of above of the station appeared in the Illustrated London News June 3rd 1854 when the station called Grand Central opened. The passenger service operated by the LNWR was transferred to this station from Curzon Street on June 1. The Midland trains followed a month later. The Curzon...
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    The Brunel Iron Bridges on the Birmingham to Wolverhampton Railway

    This is the opinion which I have formed as well Regarding the locomotive on the ballast train that passed over at the time the Winson Green Bridge collapsed, the Wolverhampton Chronicle named this as the DREADNOUGHT, which was a broad gauge six coupled doubled frame loco built at Swindon in...
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    The Brunel Iron Bridges on the Birmingham to Wolverhampton Railway

    John Robinson McClean has been singled out by historians as the person responsible for the construction of the bridges and he was engineer to Birmingham, Wolverhampton & Dudley Railway and Brunel was responsible for the alterations made. The issue here is that the GWR took over the BWD and...
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    Ansells fluffy squirrell

    When firms merge they sometimes adopt the trade mark of both previous companies. The Squirrel belonged to Holts
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    The Brunel Iron Bridges on the Birmingham to Wolverhampton Railway

    In a 2014 post the following comment was made: My current "project" is to unravel the story behind the railway bridge over Icknield Street facing the Great Western Inn and adjacent to the old station. A drawing at Kew suggests it may have been one of seven bridges that Brunel had to...
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    Some old pictures of Birmingham canals

    The "interesting curve on the canal image" shows the Davenports Brewery Looking towards Granville Street, When the railway was first built as a branch from Kings Norton, there was a station behind the wall called Granville Street.
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    HS2 progress 2020 and beyond

    This part of Curzon Street Station has been kept, but there were parts of the Grand Junction Station that survived and have now gone. It must not be forgotten that there were two stations at Curzon Street, side by side. The original train shed of the London & Birmingham Station was demolished to...
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    Railway infrastructure and engineering development

    Creosote came to be used on railways by 1840, it replaced the Kyanisation process that had been adopted a couple of years earlier. Stone Blocks were the preferred method of supporting early public railways
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    Some old pictures of Birmingham canals

    West Hill, or Wast Hill Tunnel is on the Worcester & Birmingham Canal as stated. Brandwood is as stated on the Stratford upon Avon Canal. They are not the same The two images on the Warwick & Birmingham Canal are on thesection from the junction with the Digbeth Branch and show the Stop Lock...
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    Gas Street basin

    The Lifford images was the Midland Railway Interchange Basin where goods were transferred from the MR own canal boats and their railway wagons.
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