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My view is that the NIMBYs who say it is a 'white elephant' and 'not needed' are not bothered by the fact that the current rail system does not cope well with the increasing demand for commuter travel, the increase of which is to be expected with the desire to reduce car use and therefore...

Well, there's more. The June 1921 census also gives Frederick Ragg (age 31 years, 6 months) and wife Christine (née Jagger, age 21 years, 11 months, married 4th q. 1920, Kings Norton [district]) also as Baker & Confectioner, but living at 104 Broad Street – so yes, a partnership.

In the June 1921 census William Ison Ragg, aged 58 years 1 month, lived at 185 Lordswood Rd, Harborne, Birmingham, with wife Emma (nee Sheen, aged 53 years 10 nonths, married 1st q 1888); son William Gilbert Ragg (age 26 years 1 month); daughters Alice Maud Ragg (aged 18 years 1 month) and...

As ever, the committee gets its way.

Thank you, that's better. It's much older but from about the same angle.

Burnt in the fireplace very well, I understand, although the tar they were soaked in gave off a lot of smoke!

Any chance of posting the original print?

There were wooden setts as well, often laid outside of churches and hospitals to keep the traffic noise down. Do I remember RUBBER ones in the Minories, between the two halves of the Lewis's building?

Saturday 18th of what 2025?

Listing does not prevent demolition in Birmingham, especially if the brown paper envelope to the relevant councillor is thick enough.

Thanks mikejee. I have now found this on it: https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/threads/grosvenor-street-school.48222/

Anyone know the name of the school that it used to be?

I wouldn't know, I have no incentive to visit the town centre now. I presume it's the building that looks as if it's wearing fishnet tights.

Considering Birmingham is about 460 feet above sea level, there would have to be quite a few locks along a ship canal to Birmingham.

I remember that library with great affection. Knocked down and replaced with a concrete monstrosity, itself now thankfully gone.

I don't suppose those sort of things are made in the UK any more.

I doubted it at first, but now believe it is the Curzon Street building - with the hotel extention to the north, but there is a huge amount of artistic licence given to the other districts.

Looking from the Gueens Hotel building.

I remember that place, between the traffic lights and the cold storage place. Two bothers who didn't get on or speak to each other, one in the front part of the cafe cooked bacon and tomatoes (the latter in a saucepan that by it's look hadn't been cleaned out since before the war) and the other...

Unfortunately so, but as unlike ths original railway developers, today's designers and builders are paid a living wage and work in safety-oriented surroundings, and costs are watched carefully. If publicly funded HS2 cost were to rise by, say, 75% to make it look 'prettier' would you mind your...