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My thinking was that "car" wouldn't have yet taken on its modern meaning by the 1860s. I see online sources suggesting that the first recorded use of "car" to mean "automobile" was in the 1890s, e.g.: http://www.word-detective.com/2014/12/car/ Prior to that, I think it could mean any wheeled...

Perhaps a reference to a carriage rather than a motor car in those days?

Thanks Janice - that's the right Joseph and Ann, yes. I've read the coverage of the inquest in Aris' Birmingham Gazette, but I'm not sure I've read the Birmingham Daily Post article, which looks more detailed. Am just taking at look at it in the British Newspaper Archive now.

Judging from the baptism records, John Allday joined his wife Jane's chapel when they married, and their first children were baptized there. Though Jane herself was a Londoner, her family were Scottish, so I'd guess she was Scots Presbyterian. Joseph comes across as something of an Anglican...

Thanks - interesting to see Joseph's name in stone somewhere. Most of my Allday family were baptised at St Martin's (in some cases after an earlier baptism at the Old Meeting House). I understand Joseph was warden there for some thirteen years. Knowing nothing of bell-ringing I've just been...

Thanks for those Tinpot. I think the first is new to me - I imagine that will be Joseph's version of events of the Argus libel precedings that led to his 10 month stay at Warwick Gaol in 1831. My ancestor John Allday was also accused of involvement in his brother's libel scandal and the...

Oh, I see - thanks for the clarification Richard!

Many thanks for all the further updates and pictures folks - I'm most impressed and appreciative of the trouble you're all prepared to go to (especially if you've taken those pictures yourself, Richard). I see the graves at plot C 233 were removed, but the memorial stone left in place. The same...

My 4 x great grandparents John and Jane Allday are in there somewhere, too, but like Joseph, the JQRT site suggests they have no extant memorial either. John (d. 1871) was Joseph's brother and, I think, a founding member of the Birmingham Political Union with Thomas Attwood and others. His...

Excellent, thanks all! I hadn't found the JQRT database or plot map before - that's most helpful. Having perused the records for a while, I'm guessing that the other names listed at the bottom of each entry are those with identical grave location references in the database, so in Ann's case...

Hi folks. I'm looking for the grave of Birmingham politician and journalist of sorts, Joseph Allday, 1798(?)-1861, which is, or was, at Warstone Lane cemetery. From what I've read of him so far, Joseph seems a colourful character of decidedly mixed repute. You can read something of his exploits...

Hi all. I'm researching the Birmingham Alldays and thought I'd add a belated contribution. 8-9 Warstone Lane was built c.1865. It's Grade II listed and you can find Historic England's description of the building here...