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That's all most interesting. Just briefly before I head off to work: If you have access to the British Newspaper Archive, you can find the St Martin's vestry meeting article here: https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/viewer/BL/0000223/18310409/003/0003?browse=False (towards the end of the...

Welcome to the forums Annbee. I'm fairly new here myself - they seem a friendly and helpful lot so far! Most interesting to read your details on William Beach. I'd hoped that posting the list of signatories might lead others to discovering similar connections to mine. I'm sure many of the...

That's interesting about the lime shipping routes. I've just been reading about the Luckcock brothers, Urban and Felix, of the Birmingham Political Union, who were lime dealers in the 1830s. Felix was a wharfinger at Cambridge Street Wharf on the Fazeley Canal, which I imagine would have been a...

The Founders of the Birmingham Political Union My interest in the BPU and the political events around it began with a family connection - discovering that my 4 x great grandfather John Allday was one of its original leaders. This organisation, that went on to represent the voices of hundreds of...

A colorful tirade from the Black Country Muse, on the predations of the nail factors, and the plight of the nail makers they exploited: https://blackcountrymuse.webs.com/nailmaking My 3 x great grandfather, Joseph Jukes, was one such nail factor in West Bromwich in the 1840s, and his father...

I found a record of propertied widows casting legally valid votes way back in 1640 in the borough of Eye in Suffolk. The High Sheriff, however, deemed it improper to count them: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=js-qBgAAQBAJ&lpg=PA107&pg=PA135#v=onepage&q&f=false Otherwise, I don't know of...

… in which the folk of Birmingham play a leading role in reaching a milestone on the path to British democracy. I’m sure this story is familiar to many here, but I didn’t find it summarized in a recent post, so thought it might be worth recounting my understanding of the events in question...

I found this thread from a few years back looking for further background on the Birmingham Political Union. Have learned some interesting details of Thomas Attwood's life that I didn't know before, thanks to Dennis' potted biography above.

I've just been searching for what you have on the Birmingham Political Union, and found this thread. In belated answer to Tinpot's question: I have that same picture in my copy of the The Collected Essays of Asa Briggs, captioned "The Gathering of the Unions" on New Hall Hill, 7 May 1832. This...

The probate record lists his estate as "Effects under £1000" so he certainly seems to have been in a comfortable wealth bracket.

Nice to see some fellow photography enthusiasts here. When I'm not exploring the interesting little corners of history my family tree takes me to, I'm often out and about in my nearby nature reserves either side of the Severn Estuary. Birds and bugs are my favourite subjects, but happy to point...

Checking my notes on the deeds there's certainly no mention of a Mr Hickman in the Swan Tavern transactions. Of the other warehouses on that St Phillips side of Temple Row, Tutin's appears likely to belong to Samuel Tutin (1739-1815), Hatter and Hosier, of Bull Street, while the Messrs Handley...

Back in June, I paid a visit to the library to look at some archive documents relating to my Allday family. These included some lovely old wax-sealed parchments containing the deeds for the Swan Tavern, on its sale to my 5 x great uncle William Allday in 1815. After some assistance from the...

That's the Lamb House again, isn't it? In 1835 it would have been George Pole's butcher's shop in the middle, with John Suffield snr to the right, I think. Viv's shared photo from earlier in the thread shows a still recognisable view from some 50 years later: Ed

If you have access to Ancestry, check out the probate listings: Robert Emuss, butcher, High Street, Aston died 9th September 1867, New Mills. Effects granted to his widow, Mary Ann Emuss

Excellent, thanks Viv

Thanks for sharing those, Viv. If I have my bearings right, both show a good view of No. 1 Dale End (the tobacconist with the fan of awnings). That location (and perhaps building) was, in the 1820s/30s, the wireworking workshop and show rooms of my relative Joseph Allday (journalist, town...

I've just been exploring that bit of town, on a visit for some Allday family research. So much change in relatively little time. It seems a shame to have lost the college buildings, but the Town Hall and Museum still make a fine view. Here's Thomas Attwood reclining in front of the...

Ann Walford was one of two Gloucestershire sisters to marry into the Allday family of Birmingham. In 1823 she married wireworker Joseph Allday, a year after her sister Sarah had married Joseph's brother Thomas, a butcher, then of the Old Lamb House on Bull Street. In 1831, when her husband...

What a fascinating thread. A number of my Allday family had shops on Bull Street in the early-to-mid 1800s, so I've been trawling the various posted maps, snippets and photos to see what I can learn about their location. Thanks to everyone who has contributed! My 4 x great grandfather, John...