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sorry margaret - its not there :(

Re: please help find the smith family cannock well i can tell you some possibles i.e. with mothers maiden name smith, but as smith is a common name i cant be sure if right family. i think i had better send via instant message for privacy reasons.

Re: please help find the smith family cannock looking at find people 192.com there is a gladys n. hassall listed on the 2002/03 electorall roll with frederick hassall at same address in staffordshire. also theres a gladys n denny , staffordshire, on the 2002/05 on the same site . you can...

if you send for the cert from bham register office they will check for you that it is husband james registering the death. if its a different husbands name they wont charge you. i have two lots of grandparents in my family tree who never got married but pretended they did!

thanks patti, its just that in your first post you said they were living angelina st. aston so i wasnt sure if its the correct one. ive looked for marriages but not been successful im afraid. as you say, maybe they never got married. the only death that fits with other info you have is...

im a bit confused as to which census you have for 1891 for james and sarah? the one i can find with james johnson and sarah johnson both 25 were living miles street aston. james was an ornamental brass tube drawer born bham and sarah a steel pen maker born dudley. am i looking at the correct...

i couldnt find a marriage that fitted. theres a death of sarah a amos in 1942 birmingham aged 72yrs.

Re: please help find the smith family cannock theres also a marriage of a gladys n smith in 1958 to cyril denny this was in cheadle staffs

Re: please help find the smith family cannock i cant be sure if its correct but theres a marriage of a gladys n smith to frederick e hassall 1956 cannock jan-mar 9b 286

did you find him in 1881? he is living ash street, wolverhampton, with relatives john hallett 32 blacksmith b. wolverhampton mary e. hallett 31 b. hereford charlotte j. hallett 11 b. wolverhampton mary e. hallett 9 b. bham charles j. hallett 6 b.bham richard h. hallett 4 b.bham...

theres this marriage. is it any good? henry sheldon to sarah jane williams 1864 jan-mar dudley

Re: The Hardie- Murdoch connection? sorry judith, i cant see the death on igi. shera

Re: The Hardie- Murdoch connection? there are also these two isabel hardie chr. 17 aug 1755 dallas, moray, scotland. parents william hardie and margaret murdoch john hardie born 17 nov 1775 chr. 19 nov 1775 dallas, moray, scotland with parents william hardie and jane buie.

Re: The Hardie- Murdoch connection? on the igi site there are these children john hardie born 8 jul 1750 chr. 12 jul 1750 alexander hardie born 28 feb 1745 chr. 3 mar 1745 margaret hardie born 31 oct 1743 chr. 3 nov 1743 janet hardie born 28 nov 1752 chr. 3 dec 1752 robert hardie born 30 jan...

ive not seen that before, sometimes a date of birth but not half year old, but thats what it looks like!

hi margaret, yes there is something after the entry and i have magnified it. i think it says 1/2 yr old. so dont know whether that means a half year old or 1 - 2 year old. i would guess it was half year old but cant be sure!

Re: The Drummonds from the Glasgow area i honestly dont know other than to try "scotlands people". i havent had any ancestors from scotland myself so have no experience of this. i think you are right about john, often a child was named the same as one that had died. i looked on...

Re: The Drummonds from the Glasgow area well it would have to be parish records . ancestry does have some argyll parish records but nothing at all coming up for drummond. i think you would have to contact them in scotland but ive no idea of any address etc. there is a website called...

Re: The Drummonds from the Glasgow area i would say they are both the correct ones. william must have died sometime after margaret was born (and he was much older than ann). all i can think is that the children were either elsewhere on the census day, or that the names are first, second...

Re: The Drummonds from the Glasgow area and in 1851 - address cosach, lismore and appin, argyll ann drummond 54 peter drummond 18 bell drummond 12 (a daughter) presumably isabella colin drummond 10 margaret drummond 8 strange that the childrens names dont match from 1841.