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Mike are you able to post a map showing the location of Nelson St West off Summer Hill, please?

I thought your Gazette find was absolutely brilliant, Lyn. What insights you discovered! Thank you for pointing out that there were 3 Nelson Sts, Mike. I had only found the Sandpits location, but now I see that Nelson St West was off 73 Summer Hill, at least in 1872.

Thank you very much for that information,Brumboozer. What is the 1861 directory as I have not come across that? Thank you too, Lyn, for your find from the London Gazette. It left me saddened & very surprised but pleased to have new addresses.

These photos have been posted before on BHF, but lost. Where the original poster is known it is included in the title.

Thank you very much indeed, Lyn, Suzanne & Mike. I had never expected to get this information. By way of appreciation I'll add some Cregoe photos later on on the Cregoe thread as everything was lost.

My pleasure, Bernie.

This website is invaluable for understanding the causes of death on certificates: https://www.sedgleymanor.com/diseases/diseases_front_page.html My thanks go to Ian Beach for providing the site.

Thank you, Mike. I had not thought in terms of organisation of parishes.

The bride's family were connected with Lowe St at various times & one of the witnesses came in 1861 from 189 Darwin St so perhaps that explains the Bordesley location for the bride, but its still about 4 miles away from Aston Juxta. Perhaps I'll never work out why they used that church.

Thank you, Mike but thats the other John E Milner thats caused me much confusion. I should have mentioned him in order to rule him out. Sorry. I do know that my John Milner was living separately from his mother Ann Milner & brother George & sister in law Hannah who were in Cregoe St Ladywood in...

Thank you for that photo of Lozells Rd, Lyn. The upstairs windows are certainly distinctive. I'll have to look at maps to see the footprint as it will be interesting to see how far the property stretches back off the road. Thank you, David. 60 Lozells Rd to Camp Hill is about 3 miles so much...

For the sake of completeness, here is a picture of the Bell at 60 Lozells Rd. Just scroll down to the last post. https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=25331&page=27&highlight=lozells

1 have 2 questions: 1) Could 60 Lozells Rd have been described as being in Bordesley in 1863? Sarah Lucy Mottershaw was at that address in 1861 & when she married John Milner 6.10.1863 at Aston Juxta / St Peter & Pauls she was described as living in Bordesley. Based on the RAC routeplanner it...

Just sent you a response, Lyn re the photo. For anyone interested Ted Rudge's book Winson Green to Brookfields is available from these suppliers: https://www.find-book.co.uk/book/Winson-Green-to-Brookfields-Through-Time/1848681321.htm

Aston Juxta aka St Peter & Pauls aka Aston Parish Church

So pleased that you enjoy the Guest St pic, Lyn. Thank you for pointing out my error - I have shrunk "Great" to "Little" in post 757.

Guest St junction Little King St. If memory serves Guest St arrived late & left early.

Bell Inn 60 Lozells Rd is, in this picture, advertising a smoking party. Apparently a men only musical evening coirdinated by a chairperson. No 60 is now a shop. The Victorian photo is from Keith Turner's fascinating book Birmingham Pubs now out of print but still available used...

Putting that stone up for sale was a triumph of hope, surely?

Thank you so much Aston Lad for all your input & to you Mike for the map for the explanation about the name change. This was certainly not a possibility that I had considered. I may know a little more later this week when my gg aunt's death certificate arrives. In the meantime you have given me...