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  1. MWS

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    It appears that 29 - 37 High St are still there. Map from 1957 followed by link to modern street view...
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    Clifton Road Aston

    The house on Upper Sutton St, think it has to be no. 86, appears to be a shop of some kind. Not sure if those are a couple of bananas hanging in the window.
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    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Elsie is also listed with George & Elizabeth Snook on the 1911 census. The transcript at least has her name incorrectly as Elise. Listed as a visitor rather than a grand daughter, a little surprising. So possibly Rebecca misunderstood the question in 1911 and listed both her living daughters...
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    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Elsie Tovey, Chris' mom. You posted her marriage certificate on post #103. Also listed as Freda Elsie. Her grandmother was Elizabeth Tovey who married George Snook. Elsie's father, George Thomas Tovey, was an illegitimate son of Elizabeth. Caroline (mentioned above) was George's daughter with...
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    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Pretty sure I've got the correct person. As we know they are just a snapshot but Elsie is listed on both the 1901 and 1911 census with her mother and a sister. On the 1901 one her father is there as well but in 1911 he is with another in Harborne (High St). He is still there in 1921 and 1939...
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    Location High Park Smethwick

    On the 1889 map there is a High Park Road in Smethwick. It appears to have been what is now Messenger Road. There is also a High Park Terrace listed. Not sure what was there in 1847.
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    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    George and Mary must have been a couple before he emigrated and I imagine that it was always their intention for Mary to join him once he had established himself. They must have made the arrangements by letter. And if George was already in America, which seems likely, their hasty marriage...
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    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Sorry, just seen this. I don't think he travelled with her. On the passenger list for the question 'Whether going to join relative or friend...' it gives Walter's name and address, and in brackets intended husband. If Walter was travelling with her then that question would have different...
  9. MWS

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    And on the map below from a little later (1901) whilst looking for Riddings St I spotted a road running off Wright's Lane called Bannister St. Named for a relative maybe?
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    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Riddings St is marked on the first map and you can see the distance to Cherry Orchard (top right)...
  11. MWS

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Below is a map of Old Hill from 1881. Underlined are some of the roads on which the Bannisters lived and as you can see just how close some of the mines were. Cherry Orchard is the address given on a number of records for the family of Joseph & Mary including that on the burial for young...
  12. MWS

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    You may already know this Chris but it appears that the Bannister sisters had a younger brother, Joseph b1893 who died at the age of 2.
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    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    The only 2 reasons I can think of is Mary was pregnant though I can't see a few more days making a difference, or one of their families disapproved and they were worried that they might be stopped though neither was under age. I suppose taking a romantic view they may have been very much in...
  14. MWS

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    These are the passenger list (clipped) and marriage certificate that Janice posted earlier in the thread...
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    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Just looking at the dates for Mary's arrival in America and her marriage and I didn't realise just how close they were. According to the passenger list Mary arrived in New York on the 2nd Jun 1904 and then on the following day, the 3rd Jun 1904, she married George Walter Wilson in Cuyahoga...
  16. MWS

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    A mile east of Netherton...
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    Sarah Roberts (nee Brown)

    I meant that they may have been in Wrexham for some reason at the time of Sarah's death and Thomas not long afterwards met Eliza there. A wild stretch I know, especially as Eliza's daughters appear to have been born in Bham.
  18. MWS

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Turning away from the Bannister sisters for the moment. In the opening post you mention that Joseph Bannister was born Dudley. However on the majority of censuses his birthplace is listed as Rowley Regis. Then moving on to Joseph's father, I noted his residence at the time of his baptism is...
  19. MWS

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Re : Annie Bannister. Priest is also a common name in the Black Country and I can't see any connection between Annie's husband (James) & Martha's 1891 employer (Thomas). I went back to James' great grandfather and Thomas's grandfather. So might be just a coincidence though I wouldn't rule them...
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    Sarah Roberts (nee Brown)

    A bit of a stretch but I see on the 1911 census Eliza birthplace is given as Llandudno. Wrexham is between the two.
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