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I noticed the forum went down for a while earlier this morning. Since it came back up the advert content has gone berzerk.... I'm getting little continual videos popping up in the bottom right hand corner, big banner videos popping up at the top of the page and large videos on the left hand...

From pre-Villa Park days (when they played at Perry Barr I would guess) - Here is a team photo from 1879-80:- And another from 1887 - they all seem a little sun-tanned in this one....

apologies if been on the forum before:-

Here are a few - apologies if any have been on the forum before:-

Back into the yard:- And finally - a few in colour:- Tramlines and overhead wire pole in this one:-

Still outside - a few examples of tramlines and cobbles in the yard:- 3rd bus in the line looks like a damn good destination.... These were parked on Miller St itself:-

Then back inside the garage for a bit more work:- Now over the inspection pit:- And if you wanted its history - here you are! Now back outside to see what else I could find (from a later visit I think):-

Once parked up I was again allowed onboard - this time with my trusty old Praktica flashgun armed and ready:- Then we went outside:- Look at those wonderful leathercloth seats:- How many time did you come downstairs on a Birmingham Standard bus and not read the notices above the mirror:-...

Work over it was decided to move it to another part of the garage:- Note the temporary doors at the back - this was to keep jammy-faced-Tiswas-loving oiks from getting on the bus and having a party on it......... Now reversing:-

Inside the main garage was ex-Birmingham Standard rear-entrance MOF 9, which was already preserved (including repaint to BCT colours) and housed in the garage:- It still had a vintage vehicle rally number in its front passenger window:- It was being worked on that day:- Again a friendly...

Next lot - note the Leyland National in the rear:- Here is the interior (I think....) - looks quite comfortable.... Back to bus-loving photographers dreamland - wish I could have afforded colour film...... Nice ex-BCT sign on the wall:- Inside one of the many ex-BCT buses on site:- Now...

Back to the yard - then it was very easy to simply walk in and get whatever photos you wanted on a Saturday or Sunday - I doubt I could do the same now:- Lets go inside BON 501C - I know a naughty little s$%t who used to love turning those bus number handles at the rear - so many buses came...

And some more - note in a lot of the photos of the old permanent way yard you can still see many relics of the tramway era - cobbles, tramlines, overhead wire poles etc:- This is the interior of EOF 242L above:- Back to the main garage now:-

I notice its been nearly 3 years since I posted #8 & #9 above - so here are "the best of the rest" - all taken in and around Miller St in the late 70's / early 80's:- This is the interior of the single decker BON 468C above:-

Have you offered them to Birmingham Central Library Archives - they will usually take large specific collections like this I believe?

Hi Lyn; just round the corner from where I used to live too (but not in WW2 I will hasten to add....) Amazing to think you could have a munitions factory smack bang in the middle of a tightly packed residential area - how many people would it have taken out if something had gone "bang"?

Hi Viv; if you look at virtually all the IWM photos I have posted everyone is spotless and most of the photos look posed - very much for propaganda I think - most are by official photographers as well. Any photos from these establishments would have been subject to censorship I guess -...

National Munitions Projectile Factory Dudley in WW1:-

MIlls Munitions Factory Bridge St West 1915:-

All these from the Imperial War Museum Website:- Cartridge Making Kynochs 1917:- Bullet Velocity Testing Kynochs 1917:- Cartridge Manufacture Kynochs 1917:- Cartridge Barrels Kynochs 1917:-