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Yes it's a complicated one for sure Mark. Many thanks for yours and Lyn's help in getting through this one! Team BHF does it again!!

Thank you Lyn. no I'm not on Ancestry. I'm doing this as a 'free favour' for my sister in law. With a months FMP sub and a PDF order the 'favour' is already £33 :joy: What I will ask is do they have prison mugshots on Ancestry? her other grandfather got 4 months hard labour (B,ham) in 1936.

Yes I saw the 'Strong' marriage but discounted it at the time. Siblings of William James Hawkes.. Hawkes/ Bartlett James 1856 Samuel 1859 Strange no marriage record.

So these could be Daniels parents?

Many thanks Mark & Lyn What's infuriating is I'm searching the census records for Daniel Hawkes in Birmingham which comes up with nothing. Then prompted by Marks 'address' census search for 1861/1871 there he is.

A brickwaller for the experts. I'm following back the Hawkes male line using FMP. I was hoping with the purchase of William James Hawkes birth cert PDF that I could get back another generation. Not only can I not find a Hawkes/Bartlett marriage record but also no census records for his father...

Maybe also the driving test introduced in 1935.

I managed to get in via a google search, it's very slow to load mind. As you say Mark, a little goldmine! mainly transport but a lot of pubs businesses, buildings, places etc in the background of the images to identify.

This reminds me, whilst researching my family I came across this chap. ( no relation)

I had this conundrum a couple of years ago. I went with Excel in the end as it was something I was familiar with at work before retirement. Plus it's easy to email to family members who may be interested or add to it. My created template:

My daughter had this one today. Looks even more convincing. Stay vigilant folks.

Still lots of growth and colour to brighten an October day Steve.

Here John. https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/threads/seeking-pub-identification.57942/post-828663

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/threads/sycamore-road-aston.50493/#post-812751 Hi, Thread here.

A rather grubby photo booth snap of mom and me probably taken in town as we lived in Garrison Lane at the time. Unfortunately I don't have a date but I was born in the summer of 1956 if you can guess my age. You don't see many of those knitted balaclava with shoulders any more.

Looks like I'm now due a refund in a trilogy of emails for my non-existent Netflix account. Yeah right! :joy: As ever, stay vigilant folks.

A bit of Victorian 'road rage' by the sounds of it.

My non-existent Netflix account has now been suspended so need to update my information. :joy: As always, stay vigilant folks!!

Unfortunately some people have become more precious and easily offended. These changes to the English spoken/written word are being changed to reflect that.

BMD has the groom 1913 - 1978, so he at least survives.