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So, according to Andrew and Pedro’s analysis 170,000

Now that is cutting to the chase! Great analysis Andrew, all of that other stuff is just chatter and of little value other than trivia.

I’m not sure we have this in the US. The phone company can pin point your exact position by your phone. Is that the same?

Firstly, Mort you and Janice are way past your bedtime, it’s almost past mine and I am 6 hours behind you :)! & thank you, I am curious to look into it, after a good nights sleep!

Thank you Chris! What I don’t understand is why the city fathers didn’t fight (&win) to save some of those businesses or replacements. All industrialized countries have gone through this and reinvented themselves with something more than a social action. NJ where I lived when I came to the US...

Thank you! That is very helpful and informative! I’m just curious as to what happened and will follow up on what you have provided. Thank you again!

Thanks, that link was live! Still trying to understand the 3 word thing. Will try tomorrow…

Mort is that an active link?

What was it that made Witton unsuitable for production or maybe why were the other sites better assuming they were in the UK?

Just looked we have on Amazon US as well, thank you! I also saw a book (off topic) the industrialization of Birmingham & the Black Country which is also on Kindle which is more to my liking, too much arthritis in my fingers!

I think the bigger picture here is improper means! Personally if a person has “a better mouse trap” they are entitled to to any profits as long as they are acquired fairly!

This is the cost of change! Had Kynochs not made these changes they would have been unable to participate in the considerable profitability of the new and quite long lasting technology.

Actually it was the (French) smokeless cartridge that was the change agent, and forced others to follow.

Thank you for that, a lot of obvious mistakes there to long to debate here!

Why such a rapid decline, was it quality related?

I knew about supplying both sides in the US civil war but did not realize that agents were there and from other countries. It is such a shame that the industry moved away, they had such great skills and products.

I came imagine, I feel that way and I’m not there!

Should have been )-: sad sign.

But I think harder riding over the tram tracks on a bike! I hit the deck more than a few times when my wheel got caught.