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  1. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    MWS, thanks for those comments. I have to say that I am deeply conscious of the effort and interest shown by you, Janice, Lyn and others in connection with the various aspects of my own family history so far raised in this thread. So grateful for it as well - and hopeful that you'll feel able to...
  2. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    As promised, a brief note to explain where Sarah Rose Myers "Auntie Rose" fits into my family history picture. A timeline: 1832 -birth of Henry Myers (my great-grandfather) ca 1850-1859 - Henry is in Gold Rush California 1860 - Henry marries Caroline (Carrie) Salmon. 1862 - their first child...
  3. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    I'm sorry that it looks as though I have led you off on another tangent by mention of my great aunt, Rose! (I just don't know why so many aspects of my most recent family history involve so much complication). In the morning, I'll explain, in summary, just how Rose Myers fits into things. And...
  4. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    MWS - re Mary Parkes, mother of the five girls (and very likely a short-lived son, also named Joseph, b.1893, after his sisters. See your post #128 - my brother didn't pick him up but there presumably isn't much or any doubt about this?) Thanks very much, MWS. I'm sure that my brother would...
  5. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    (Sorry for the delay in acknowledging/responding. A bit under the weather. Back shortly. Chris)
  6. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Thanks for that nice comment, Janice, and I'm really grateful to you, MWS and others for your generous interest and for contributing so much to this thread. Beyond my wildest expectations! Down to me, now, to pull it all together, amend our existing family history as appropriate and let my as...
  7. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Thank you, Janice. The links and connections are astonishing! There's a lot to think about. AND, whilst we appear to have drifted a long way off-topic, I'll just remind myself - and anyone else looking at this thread - that there was a strong link, even if post mortem, between George Tovey and...
  8. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Yes, Janice, I was about to draw a line under things but yes, please, that WOULD be interesting and potentially very useful. Thanks - Chris
  9. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Great, thank you, Janice. My brother quoted it as "Back 74, Main Street, Aston (actually Sparkbrook)". By the date of the tragedy, 20th April 1903, the family comprised just the three girls: my mother Elsie aged 3 years and 9 months; a baby, Beatrice, of 11 months; and, in between, Clara, at 2...
  10. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Thank you again, Janice. Poor little Clara Tovey died in tragic circumstances two years later. She died on 20 April 1903 at only two years of age at Queen's Hospital. The cause of death was given as Shock following Head Injuries after having been run over by a cart. The inquest, conducted by...
  11. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Thanks, MWS. I wonder if there was something a bit odd about Elsie's informal adoption and/or if the mother, Rebecca Tovey (née Brown, 1871-1945) was being "careful" and perhaps had a reason for concealing the fact that she no longer had the responsibility of caring for her eleven-year-old. To...
  12. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    This thread has evolved (for me, fascinatingly) from a discussion on two sisters, born in the Black Country in the 1870s. Mary and Martha Bannister developed close links with Birmingham: these were mainly left behind by Mary when she emigrated to the USA but they were always retained by Martha...
  13. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    I DID say my mother's early life was a bit complicated!! She was indeed Elsie Tovey - later calling herself Freda Elsie Tovey (1899-1995). Her story could perhaps be the subject of a further thread, some time, because there were there as well one or two unexplained wrinkles, but probably not...
  14. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Yes, Janice, Caroline was George Snook's daughter. She married into a local bulding family. Which explains George's arrival a little later in Station Road. I know quite a bit about that Thompson family and will post later. Remarkable period of occupation. (Am on the Severn Valley Railway at...
  15. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    That certainly looks the most likely, Janice. And thanks. The only thing is, I can't understand in that case why he was photographed standing in the front garden of no.152, Brighton House/Villa. What is not known is when his son/my father met the girl who has being raised by the Snooks at...
  16. ChrisM

    tidy up please

    Here's my go, Lyn. Someone else may well do better. Chris
  17. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Janice, regarding your recent posts: MARTHA AND CHARLES Yes, you were spot on with the row of houses. Thanks. This question of Charles's location from around 1919 for a short period has always been a bit of a mystery to us. Clearly, he had a spell in Station Road in 1920. I don't think it is...
  18. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    At the risk of drifting further off-topic, I'll just contribute a few words about the significance to me of Station Road, Knowle. I'm writing about what are now Nos. 152, 152A, 150 and 148, once known by names only and in the case of no. 148 "Salisbury". 152 and 152A are two halves of a...
  19. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Thanks for that, MWS. Blimey, the area seems to have been 100% redeveloped! You have to refer to the old map to obtain even the slightest idea of what life must have been like for everyone there. (The one favourable thing was that NO ONE had a lengthy commute to work!) I have yet to work out...
  20. ChrisM

    BANNISTER, Mary and Martha

    Yes, Janice, Salisbury was the house in which my mother spent much of her childhood. I suspect that Charles was living next door or next door but one. I did quite a bit of work on all that some years ago but didn't put it online because it contained personal information belonging to others which...
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