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Found this in the 1915 Kellys showing both

:) My pleasure Stitcher..

Stitcher, I'm sure we are all good at different things ....but Credit where Credit's due...your work is awesome and deserves to be recognised as such. :adoration:

Hi Ingleton, you may wish to delete your post from here and repost, as this is, as far as I know, not the River Street thread and your query might get missed here..(or maybe Admin might move it for you).

That's awesome Stitcher :adoration:

I agree with berniew that it looks to be part of Yardley Road, it isnt shown at all in the A-Z I have.

Like you oldroddy, my best friend and I always used to pop into The Swan for a couple before heading over to Bloomers...just a shame we had to get up for school the next day :friendly_wink:

Really sorry to hear of the loss of Max, Jean

In addition to ladylinda's info above....in the Kellys Directory for 1940, the properties belonging to Arthur Jelf at 103 Spring Hill, 42 Pershore Street, 8 College Road (Saltley) and 105 Aston Road North were all listed as Dining Rooms. 4 Summer Lane is listed as, Dining Room and Summer Lane...

Hi Astonian, It would seem that all the information found by Mike, Ladylinda and myself, fits with your certificate. Martha Jones, (Sarah's Mother) was still at 48 Gt Lister Street in 1901 and on the census, the family listed below them are at 2 House 12 Court. Strangely though also with Martha...

Brilliant info there ladylinda :adoration: Ive just found Sarah and her parents, Francis and Martha in the 1841, 51 and 61 census all in Great Lister Street. Francis was a Brewer on them all. Not sure if this is relevent Astonian, but in 1861 Francis and Martha had a Boarder by the name of...

Further to Mikes findings ( I see what you mean about the 'suckshop' Mike) I found a marriage for a Sarah Jones to a George JELFFS in 1860, 2nd 1/4, Aston, Volume 6d Page 309. Found them in Phillips Street in 1871, but I have to go to work now so I will look for 1861 later unless someone else...

I found a Francis Jones, Labourer, at 48 Gt Lister Street in the 1862 Corporation Directory for Birmingham and its Environs, which could possibly tie in with Mikes map of 47 & 48 and court 12. There was also a Sarah JELPHS, mangle keeper, but she was at 16 Brearley Street. I will have to do a...

Re: sarah jones Hi Astonian, is there another number before or after 12 court ? As far as I know there is usually a house number. also, would Sarah have been Jones or Jelf at that time and do you have her Fathers name

mossg, I agree and I'm sure Lyn will too. The van pretty much marks the spot :) Here is a Now and Then picture Just need an old photo of the same spot from before the time it was all changed ..says she with fingers crossed Lyn...lol'ing at your sat nav comment :) and big thanks to John Knight.

Mike, Lyn, Stars and mossg, I can't thank you enough for helping me out with my query, I really am most grateful to you all. :) Lyn, I found the photo that you posted at #75 on another site, just before I went to bed last night and was well excited !! I really wished I could stretch it a bit...

Thanks Mike :)

I'm relieved you didnt think it was daft :adoration: I will live in hope of coming across a photo of my rellies side of the Row..

I know the feeling Lyn..Not to worry about the photo, I expect it will come to you. I can only make out West Heath and Bromsgrove on the sign post. I will hang on to the map, it really is a good one to have Lynne

:) I was wondering about the "map" Lyn !lol! but thats a lovely photo anyway...could you tell me where it was please. The Map is great !! ..many thanks again, I can enlarge it by zooming in. It really does help to get your bearings and I also spotted another road where Ive found an...