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Whoa a bit Wobag! Could you post both please...separately....me eyes and brain is too old to see the transitions clearly..? Be very grateful...must say I think this is a very novel and original way of looking at history for me anyway...LOVE it....!

Utterly fascinating Viv...brilliant find, some great sleuthing from the usual suspects....and voila....I think Mr Burns finally nailed it....another bit of history for our collection! Thanks to all...

Fascinating...I have these in my files....and I just about remember discussing this boozer with Phil yonks ago....can't remember which Fred...but some more grist to the mill anyroadup...?

This is the White Horse Edmund Street...looks similar...?

I am still lurking...Aidan has been banned. and I don't know about the others....

Brasshouse Passage and 1889 Map......for Hammer....

Nice. An old favourite with a stack of history.............https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=40423&page=8&p=480800&highlight=Ravenhurst#post480800 I still like the old school opposite...some incredibly handsome, scholarly, funny, .....big fibbers went there....!

Spot on Phil! You 'discovered' him for me....as you did so many other "threads" of Birmingham history....can't thank you enough either....

Amen to that Viv....and as I said in post 69, I still think they should be published in all their glory...a serious academic history of disappearing Brum. Fondest memories for so many people....I cannot praise this man enough....a true scholar.....sorry mike!

Of course!! Now I remember it..! Cheers my friend! And I am still lurking mate.....albeit less frequently than usual.....old age.....

Help! This is a golden oldie...featured a few times in a variety of posts over the years...but I cannot remember it's true location! ...I THINK it was maybe old Ann Street....please confirm or deny....and the significance of the rather more ancient, almost church like remnants? Cheers....

Nah...they've built two rows of houses there on the site now John......you can see them from my roof (the only photo I have!) .....on the left, past the white cottages...

Great new pic Speedwing....wonder what the Lane was like in 1785...before the railway line etc....?

And finally, from me anyway, as I said at the beginning, they are all laid to rest in Handsworth Church...and these are the tributes to them...brilliantly captured by Bill Dargue personally....Boulton, Watt and Murdoch....three of Birmingham and Scotland's finest....!

William Murdock was one of the great triumvirate of industrial heroes who helped to thrust Birmingham on to the world stage as a manufacturing town of international repute. The other two were Matthew Boulton and James Watt. Although he never became their partner, Murdock played a crucial...

Ok, so more on James Watt Born: 18/01/1736 Died: 19/08/1819 Birthplace: Greenock, Scotland James Watt helped take us from the farm to the factory and into the modern world. Though a truly awful businessman, he was the ingenious engineering power behind the industrial revolution. At the...

More on the triumvirate from Mr Chinn... Boulton, Watt and Murdock 'I shall never forget Mr. Boulton's expression to me' , wrote Boswell after a visit to Soho, ' "I sell here, Sir, what all the world desires to have - POWER" '. Although James Watt invented the steam engine, it was Boulton who...

Well, it's perhaps high time we saluted one of Brum's most famous men....Matthew Boulton, and his two equally famous mates...Messrs Watt and Murdock...and taking them each individually.... Matthew Boulton, the son of a silver-stamper, was born in Birmingham on 14th September 1728. His...

Dadahhh....The Tram terminus...

Thought it was!! Brilliant...