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One of the reasons I never went to pubs was the tribal nature in them........"get outa my pab"...idiots.

I have been trying to work it all out for 2 1/2 years.......wouldnt have got anywhere on Wifes Maternal side if our Daughter hadnt done a DNA test which turned up a match in Newcastle Under Lyme. It turned out to be Mother in laws 1/2 sibling.......and all along side this was Mr Bayley...had the...

I have Ancestry but not worldwide...... Edit......seems to work now.....1 page so far...lol

jUST GOT HIS CERT...............Dad is listed same as Charlies Cert....interesting jobs for Dad...

Yes those are the ones......will have to be quick and look on Ancestry.... Still trying to 100% confirm Charles and John.......which was the other one along with Charles that you didnt know Henry/Harry was the Dad - registered as Bayley ?

Found in Ottawa Free Press cuttings across 4th June/10th June 1915....Edgar Dunhill sometimes private/sergeant and missing/wounded and in P.O.W. camp @ Bishofswerke Germany......tried but cant find a way to copy or clip them.

Just read the reports on Edgar and Robert.....heartbreaking that they split them up. It says at the end "Photos in "Story of Middlemore 1872-1972"." ...I wonder if it means we could see them ?

Thanks again......I was looking this afternoon and it seemed boys were with Dad and Girls with Mom but your find is another revelation (many times over). I was changing the name to Harry Dunhill on My tree for the Dad of Charles and opened the cert for 2nd marriage for Charles and Alice as still...

all I can find for 1901 is Harry,Edgar and Robert at Speedwell Rd Yardley...no idea about Gertrude (Mom) ,Gertrude (Child) or Charles William.

Sorry no I hadn't caught up with #31.....only just got some WiFi ...in M and S cafe lol......... OMG Janice you are a star....how the hell do you find all these things. This ALL looks plausible and answers a lot of things. I have been clicking on some of them not realising what I was looking at...

Wow have to dig that out. Thanks

Thanks for moving this thread...it had hijacked the original one....just found 8 messages telling me....LOL

Many happy returns Lyn

OK...internet back on PC now lol... this must be wifes Grandad as he lived at 20 Tower Road for 40 years.

Yes I looked at Willes Road on 1921 and no ones name I knew...

Oh my......no idea how you found that under 8 court 25.....think I saw it under one of these addresses.

Thanks all the time you 2 put in on my behalf. I have Charles everywhere after 1919 when he married Wife's GMother with loads of entries in voting AND with the help of the free weekend I found a Charles (W) Bayley in Newspaper article in 1969 when he complained about disturbance in Woodlands...

Thanks....this is one hell of a ghost family.......Charles has his mother as Gertrude on the Army papers but cannot tie this down to anyone and no Birth marriage or death listed for her. On various things the father has different names but on a Birth cert for Charles which says Gertude is Mother...

" Looking for any info pics etc on 21 Cheapside Birmingham thanks in advance "........ On 1921 Census a Sarah Jane Smith live there alone...she was a Draper and from Walsall aged 55.

Thanks for that......I know they wrote the address in a funny way and cant decide if its Court 8 house No 25 or Court 25 House No 8....lol. In all the written records I have seen I cant find either. The latest I am looking at is the 1921 Census (free) where you can see whose living there and it...