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Thanks for posting the photo Charlie, I always smile when I see a reply on this post. Disappointing that Harry's grave is still neglected Rosie. I know the Bishop takes a while but it seems that he has overlooked this one. What a pity.

Just caught up with your lovely little James, have a maunch of him for me Lyn. X

I went to the Library last week and they can't find any of the papers related to Thomas d B. I am going to have to trace my steps back to find the origin of the info I found. Lots of map out on show but nothing old enough. I did pop in to see the Shakespeare exhibition, what a man he was.

A bit late to reply to your post Banjo, I have just found it, my cousin lived in Langdale Road and he was my pal when I lived in Hamstead. With his gang we used to get up to no end of mischief, the great thrill was to jump into the coal trucks that were parked near the foredraft. The 'Mole...

Lovely photo Rowan, I remember you had a visiting bird - Mr C Gull - or something like it!!

I found this on Wikipedia, William is the first of the de Birminghams, in the 12th Century, but then read on. William de Birmingham [7] The first "definite" de Birmingham. Became enfeoffed of Birmingham in the reign of Henry I of England (1100–1135).[7] Peter de Birmingham (Peter Fitz William?)...

Another reference to a Castle Carolina, I do love a good mystery. I feel that there are so many references to a Castle there has to have been more than a fortified Manor House. Just have to keep digging.

How we miss Peter, I have been down memory lane with him again. If you haven't already, these posts are well worth reading.

I am going to be in Birmingham in June. On the 9th I've got a spare morning when I'll go to the Library and have a look at the Thomas de Birmingham Papers that they they hold. I'll also talk to the staff, they are great and they will know if there is anything more that will help locate the...

I think it's possible that the square building is our Castle. It seems to be in the spot described on the walk, i.e left of Warstone and close to Birmingham Heath. We need an old map that is surely tucked away soomewhere. Shame Ordnance Survey was a few hundred years too late!!

I put a link to Google eBooks in this section of the Forum. It is a stroll round the city in the 19th century, it backs up what has already been discussed, that the castle, built in the 14th century by Thomas de Birmingham, stood in fields to the left of Warstone Lane. That won't have any...

Thomas second grandaughter was Elizabeth, she married George Longeville, Lord Dudley - he of Castle fame!!

I have checked all likely places for Thomas's will but so far no luck. But the Library do hold a bundle of papers relating to Thomas and John de Birmingham, 1402/1436 and 1437/1494. More pertaining to Thoms 1367/1397. Is it worth a look?

One thing occured to me, Wills. Thomas de Birmingham died before he could inherit lands of his brothers widow Elizabeth. Instead his two granddaughters inherited. It means that he would have left a Will naming them, to prove that he did indeed build a castle, and, more importantly, where it...

The link takes you to Google ebooks for an interesting look at a Birmingham long gone. https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=QKlfAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA47&dq=A+Castle+in+Warstone+Lane+Birmingham&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjL7ZTu

Hi Lyn. I have put them back, they were all 'hacked' Meaning to do it for ages.

This from Wikipedia Viv The rod or perch or pole is a surveyors tool and unit of length equal to 51⁄2 yards, 161⁄2 feet, ... In the 13th century perches were variously recorded in lengths of 18 feet (5.49 m), 20 feet (6.1 m), 22 feet (6.71 m) and 24 feet ....

I found this from a post by Mikejee in 2012!! It heading is A Castle In Camden Street, I think. Shame Mick Aston is no longer with us, I'm sure he would definitely liked to have a 'poke around' Birmingham Antiquities. —I wish to put on record in your journal a fact concerning the antiquities of...

You are welcome, I hope you find it.

Yes ellbrown, sorry I meant the look of the stairs in your photo and the position of them. My watercolour was done from the old photo in Phil's post.:)