pjmburns
master brummie
Viv - I am now confused.
Quaker cottage is on the other side of Wiggins Hill Road from the Old Barn
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Old Barn, Wiggins Hill Road, Wishaw
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Quaker cottage is on the other side of Wiggins Hill Road from the Old Barn
For the BHF record and confirming post #1. British History Online claims the cottage (north of Wiggins Hill Farm), has the original timber framework, but with a rebuilt C17 central chimney. It describes the cottage as early C17.
Wiggins Hill Farm, ¾ mile south-east, is an L-shaped house facing north, of which the lower story is of early-17th-century brickwork with red sandstone quoins and a stone chamfered plinth. The upper story is of late-17th-century brickwork and has curvilinear ('Dutch') gable-heads. At the back is an early-17th-century brick chimney-stack. Just north of it is an early-17th-century cottage with remains of original timber-framing and a rebuilt central chimney.
Wiggins Hill Farm, ¾ mile south-east, is an L-shaped house facing north, of which the lower story is of early-17th-century brickwork with red sandstone quoins and a stone chamfered plinth. The upper story is of late-17th-century brickwork and has curvilinear ('Dutch') gable-heads. At the back is an early-17th-century brick chimney-stack. Just north of it is an early-17th-century cottage with remains of original timber-framing and a rebuilt central chimney.
We're gathering a lot of information about Wiggins Hill Farm which I think is worthy of a dedicated thread, given its long history. Shall start a separate thread.
That separate thread is here
That separate thread is here
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slightly better view of the quaker cottage
Richard Dye
master brummie
Great insight after WW2 particularly the more rural areas that took a long time to recover!
If you look at the other lots for sale in Janice's extract in post #83, Lot 4 is for " Quakers Piece". Presumably very close to the Quaker Meeting House and Old Barn. So yes, i think the chances are the cottages and barn in post #83 are the ones, on the basis that they're very near to each other.
The Quaker House itself was sold in 1890.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
The Quaker House itself was sold in 1890.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
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When Plants Brook Waterworks was built 1866 - 1879, the land (50 acres) was bought from the Wakefield Trustees. Wakefield is a local name, so they must have retained some Minworth land at least into the 1880s (as indicated by the previous advert). It looks to me that the Wakefields had a large stake in local land ownership. They owned land in both Minworth and Curdworth.
Thomas Wakefield owned Hurst Brook Meadow. In 1882 it had a pond with fish and a Brook through the meadow (presumably this meadow was near to Hurst Green ?) If so, it was next door to Wiggins Hill Farm etc.
Thomas Wakefield died in 1889
Source: British Newspaper Archive
Thomas Wakefield owned Hurst Brook Meadow. In 1882 it had a pond with fish and a Brook through the meadow (presumably this meadow was near to Hurst Green ?) If so, it was next door to Wiggins Hill Farm etc.
Thomas Wakefield died in 1889
Source: British Newspaper Archive
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pjmburns
master brummie
This is going to get tricky now.
If we think the cottages were originally part of the farm which seems likely as there are so few other buildings marked then any posts about the cottages/barn will invevitably refer to the farm as well.
Earliest newspaper reference to a farm is 1826
Do the outbuildings include the cottages?
If we think the cottages were originally part of the farm which seems likely as there are so few other buildings marked then any posts about the cottages/barn will invevitably refer to the farm as well.
Earliest newspaper reference to a farm is 1826
Do the outbuildings include the cottages?
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pjmburns
master brummie
The next reference is to some footpaths and the article names owners or occupiers of the land.
Interesting simply because it names Henry Nock and William Reynolds as the occupiers of land and on the 1841 and 1851 censuses they are named as "farmers" living at "Wigginshill".
Did John Whithead (whoever he is) own the farm, barn and cottages?
Interesting simply because it names Henry Nock and William Reynolds as the occupiers of land and on the 1841 and 1851 censuses they are named as "farmers" living at "Wigginshill".
Did John Whithead (whoever he is) own the farm, barn and cottages?
Mary. The Hodges had the premises SE of the Quaker Meeting House in the 1930s - Elmhurst.
Source: British Newspaper Archive
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Great find Mike. I think our buildings of interest are plot 1386. If so, not Whiteheads land. But could be wrong !
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Wondered if there's anything listed for Wakefield, Lowe or Richardson, Mike
The trouble is that on the Genealogist site (where this comes from) it is not easy to specify a name search in a restricted area. For example if you put in sutton coldfield and a date, you will get all the items which list the other attributes for anywhere in the country with sutton in its name !
Thanks for trying Mike.
Pedrocut
Master Barmmie
Looking at reports by Birmingham and Warwickshire Archaeological Society small quantities of Roman pottery found at Wiggins Hill, where a coin hoard was found in 199 and at Over Green.
Wiggins Hill recorded in Domesday Book as Winchicelle, and there may have been settlements at this time at Over Green and Grove End. Medieval pottery confirms the existence of settlements in the area.
Three buildings of medieval date are known to survive in this area: The Grove, Grove End, and Forge Farm are cruck-framed buildings. (Plus Minworth Greaves moved to Bournville.)
Pieces of worked flint, likely to be prehistoric, were found. Small concentration near Wiggins Hill Farm. Burn Mounds, likely of Middle Bronze Age origin, were found on Hurst Brook, west of Wiggins Hill.
The area was arable during the Roman period. South of Wiggins Hill Farm, there was occupation from the later 13th to 16th century. Shards north of the Farm, scattered, may be connected to Wiggins Hill Cottages, which may stand on earlier buildings.
Wiggins Hill recorded in Domesday Book as Winchicelle, and there may have been settlements at this time at Over Green and Grove End. Medieval pottery confirms the existence of settlements in the area.
Three buildings of medieval date are known to survive in this area: The Grove, Grove End, and Forge Farm are cruck-framed buildings. (Plus Minworth Greaves moved to Bournville.)
Pieces of worked flint, likely to be prehistoric, were found. Small concentration near Wiggins Hill Farm. Burn Mounds, likely of Middle Bronze Age origin, were found on Hurst Brook, west of Wiggins Hill.
The area was arable during the Roman period. South of Wiggins Hill Farm, there was occupation from the later 13th to 16th century. Shards north of the Farm, scattered, may be connected to Wiggins Hill Cottages, which may stand on earlier buildings.
