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No 12 BUS ROUTE

The enhanced photo dos indeed say "Oakworth" but how or why is a complete mystery to me, have to agree with #29.
paul
 
Perhaps Michael Keeley who wrote the book about Birmingham Bus Routes might know about the No. 12 destination blind. I found this on another
transport thread on the Forum.
[h=2]Re: Birmingham Buses Route by Route 1925-1975[/h]
I used to work for West Midlands Passenger Transport Executive at Summer Lane as well as Malcolm Keeley that wrote this book!

Malcolm can be contacted via the Birmingham Bus Museum at Wythall.

https://www.bammot.org.uk/​
 
This issue does not seem to have been solved!
Reference to the book mentioned in post 32 suggests that the blind is a little to high in the destination box and actually, whilst it does appear to read Oakworth, it is in fact Harborne. (same number of letters)
Some buses just used the wording Harborne or Bartley Green, but others went to California. Pictures shows the early post war style BCT buses, passing Chamberlain's statue in June 1962 with a blind stating: Harborne and Bartley Green 12. The other picture, October 1957 shows a bus in Harborne Road with a blind saying Harborne and California 12D.
 
Radiorails said:
This issue does not seem to have been solved!
Reference to the book mentioned in post 32 suggests that the blind is a little to high in the destination box and actually, whilst it does appear to read Oakworth, it is in fact Harborne. (same number of letters)
Some buses just used the wording Harborne or Bartley Green, but others went to California. Pictures shows the early post war style BCT buses, passing Chamberlain's statue in June 1962 with a blind stating: Harborne and Bartley Green 12. The other picture, October 1957 shows a bus in Harborne Road with a blind saying Harborne and California 12D.
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Did anybody ever put the query to Malcolm Keeler. Yes (phil) it looks like Oakworth, but having read Radiorails and all my Birmingham Transport Books I have to agree with Post 34 and assume the blind has twisted slightly and it does say Harborne, although when you write Oakworth and then take out the top half of the letters and do the same with Harborne, the only glitch is the last letter all the others could be Harborn, but that last letter an h does not make an e (unless as they say someone knows better (and I am sure and I bow to the expertise I see on this forum, someone out there has the answer and thus does know better). Do the lower deck vents look peculiar to any one else? Or is it just light distortion? Strangely enough Google throws up Oakworth at No 7 Twatling Road Barnt Green.

Bob
 
Sorry (not sorry) to resurrect a 10 year old thread, but here is a colour photo that clearly shows Oakworth! Where is Oakworth? Lived in Bartley Green for 20 years, never heard of it
 

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Although this query has been covered above, I'd like to add the following.

This is a photograph which an artist has tried to make clearer for printing, and the 'Harborne' on the destination not being fully visible and the artist, probably not a Birmingham person, has taken a 'best guess' at. The picture was used on the front page of the Meccano Magazine

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Lloyd said:
Although this query has been covered above, I'd like to add the following.

This is a photograph which an artist has tried to make clearer for printing, and the 'Harborne' on the destination not being fully visible and the artist, probably not a Birmingham person, has taken a 'best guess' at. The picture was used on the front page of the Meccano Magazine

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Radiorails said:
This issue does not seem to have been solved!
Reference to the book mentioned in post 32 suggests that the blind is a little to high in the destination box and actually, whilst it does appear to read Oakworth, it is in fact Harborne. (same number of letters)
Some buses just used the wording Harborne or Bartley Green, but others went to California. Pictures shows the early post war style BCT buses, passing Chamberlain's statue in June 1962 with a blind stating: Harborne and Bartley Green 12. The other picture, October 1957 shows a bus in Harborne Road with a blind saying Harborne and California 12D.
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Nallsop said:
Sorry (not sorry) to resurrect a 10 year old thread, but here is a colour photo that clearly shows Oakworth! Where is Oakworth? Lived in Bartley Green for 20 years, never heard of it
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Dave Riley said:
In case anyone was wondering what the article in the Meccano magazine was about here is the relevant pages......
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On the second page is a picture of a bus on route 12 and look at the destintion. I think the answer is as Lloyd says at #43 above.
Time for a new mystery please and Birminghsa city councillors have just announced the new estate next to Baetley Green, will be called Oakworth,
Bob
 
paul stacey said:
definatly the bartley green bus well from 55/64 anyway, never heard of oakworth or seen a sighn for it would travel regularly between town and bartley green via harborne.
paul
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Hi - do you know the bus route the no 12 bus took to Bartley green in the late 1950’s from Birmingham
 
Quite a good map here (post #15)but may have to search to find no. 12.

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Thread 'Bus routes (70s and 80s)'

Hi, I'm a newbie. It's been a number of years since I was in Birmingham, but I lived in the city for most of the 70s and 80s. I have a memory of many bus routes, but I wonder if you could fill in my gaps, or confirm my memories? And do any of them still exist? (Please do forgive me if this has been asked before...)


5 / 7 - I seem to remember this went from Colmore Row to the Portland Rd area. I have a vague memory (right or wrong?) that it was 7 in one direction then 5 in the other.

9 - that's an easy one. Out on the Hagley Road as far as Quinton.

11 - the Outer Circle! Is there any...
 
Jo Law said:
Hi - do you know the bus route the no 12 bus took to Bartley green in the late 1950’s from Birmingham
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It started opposite the town hall through Broad Street /Harborne High Street/War Lane/Northfield Road/Stonehouse Lane/upto the terminus.
 
Lloyd said:
In Congreve Street, then followed the New St - Corporation St - Bull St - Colmore Row city loop, - Paradise St - Easy Row - Broad St then as above.
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Lloyd, my error its where I caught the bus to school and forgot it went around the town first.
 
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