Alfred Birds
proper brummie kid
Hello all, newbie here but have been a member a while just haven't much time to get involved.
This could really fit under Maps or Names but will try here first.
My surname is Byng, I know the surname is mainly centred around Romsley / Bromsgrove and my father's family as far back as I know are from that area. His father Les working at Austin on aircraft and died when dad was young and dad grew up on Weoly Castle. Our name always stood out as we moved to Herefordshire in 1982 and still to this day wherever I go people comment on what an unusual name/spelling.
Anyway, to the point of this. I am more interested in a plot of land near Broad Street which I can see dates as far back as the 1553 named Byngas or Bynges Hall. Over a few hundred years the name was corrupted to Bingley Hall which most will know was rebuilt as Britain's first purpose built exhibition hall in 1850 - burned down in 1984. The International Convention Centre now stands on the site.
Bit of info from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bingley_Hall
I went to the library some time ago and found this map which I will attach and I can see Byngas Hall was in a Gild near Colmore Gild etc, I tried to find an earlier reference to the surname Byng or Byngas in the area and I found some text in another book which mentions Nicholas Byngham from 1339 in nearby Frankeleye.
And my journey ends there..
I was always told Byng was a Saxon surname, but I see in Norway there's Byngjo and Nordre Byngevagen locations so looks more likely. However, there's also Ergyng (or Erging) which isn't too far away from the spellIng or sound and a lot closer geographically. It was a Welsh kingdom of the sub-Roman and early medieval period, between the 5th and 7th centuries. It was later referred to by the English as Archenfield and nowaways generally speaking the area between Ross on Wye and Monmouth.
A long shot but would love to know if anyone could shed any further light on that Byngas Hall, where that family came from, when or went.
Cheers. Nick.
This could really fit under Maps or Names but will try here first.
My surname is Byng, I know the surname is mainly centred around Romsley / Bromsgrove and my father's family as far back as I know are from that area. His father Les working at Austin on aircraft and died when dad was young and dad grew up on Weoly Castle. Our name always stood out as we moved to Herefordshire in 1982 and still to this day wherever I go people comment on what an unusual name/spelling.
Anyway, to the point of this. I am more interested in a plot of land near Broad Street which I can see dates as far back as the 1553 named Byngas or Bynges Hall. Over a few hundred years the name was corrupted to Bingley Hall which most will know was rebuilt as Britain's first purpose built exhibition hall in 1850 - burned down in 1984. The International Convention Centre now stands on the site.
Bit of info from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bingley_Hall
I went to the library some time ago and found this map which I will attach and I can see Byngas Hall was in a Gild near Colmore Gild etc, I tried to find an earlier reference to the surname Byng or Byngas in the area and I found some text in another book which mentions Nicholas Byngham from 1339 in nearby Frankeleye.
And my journey ends there..
I was always told Byng was a Saxon surname, but I see in Norway there's Byngjo and Nordre Byngevagen locations so looks more likely. However, there's also Ergyng (or Erging) which isn't too far away from the spellIng or sound and a lot closer geographically. It was a Welsh kingdom of the sub-Roman and early medieval period, between the 5th and 7th centuries. It was later referred to by the English as Archenfield and nowaways generally speaking the area between Ross on Wye and Monmouth.
A long shot but would love to know if anyone could shed any further light on that Byngas Hall, where that family came from, when or went.
Cheers. Nick.
