I am not sure how many still follow this thread, but my father was 'Big' John white who was joint MD with David White through the 70's and 80's and the son of Carlton white ( Stephen, his brother died outside Caen after the D day landings as a tank commander for the 2nd Northampton Yeomanry). They brought Cartoning to the UK through deals with Tetra/Purpak and the first computerised production line for a dairy in Europe. Visionary in many ways. Jack White was David, Richard and Jon White's father and Carlton was my grandfather. It was an amazing business in the day and I worked holidays there, as did my brother Nigel and loved it. Nick White, David's son also worked there and Valerie Westwood (cousin of my father was also a director). The FD was John Cox. At the end of the day. despite great success, the milk business had to supply supermarkets, so they squeezed margins and the family saw the future and had to sell. I remember travelling up to 450 miles each day with 'Stan' to service clients who were short of product - great service. Can you imagine companies doing that today?