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Elsie is also listed with George & Elizabeth Snook on the 1911 census. The transcript at least has her name incorrectly as Elise. Listed...

This thread has evolved (for me, fascinatingly) from a discussion on two sisters, born in the Black Country in the 1870s. Mary and...

I DID say my mother's early life was a bit complicated!! She was indeed Elsie Tovey - later calling herself Freda Elsie Tovey...

George Snook married Mary Ann Tovey in 1862. He married Eizabeth in 1877

Elsie Tovey, Chris' mom. You posted her marriage certificate on post #103. Also listed as Freda Elsie. Her grandmother was Elizabeth...

Pretty sure I've got the correct person. As we know they are just a snapshot but Elsie is listed on both the 1901 and 1911 census with...

Can't find an earlier map at the moment but 1888 map - the green line is soho Street which I assume became Soho Way There is a terrace...

1901 map showing High Park Road

On the 1889 map there is a High Park Road in Smethwick. It appears to have been what is now Messenger Road. There is also a High Park...

Ths snippet from a newspaper article confirms that Elmleigh was numbered 140 I think it highy likely that this was where Charles...

Its a big bugger this one......

George and Mary must have been a couple before he emigrated and I imagine that it was always their intention for Mary to join him once...

Thanks - that backs up what I thought. So he must have been in Ohio and could organise the marriage.

Sorry, just seen this. I don't think he travelled with her. On the passenger list for the question 'Whether going to join relative or...

And on the map below from a little later (1901) whilst looking for Riddings St I spotted a road running off Wright's Lane called...