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Workhouse

Yorkshire Lass

Yorkshire Lass

proper brummie kid
It looks like my great grandfather was born in a workhouse in Birmingham and I wondered if anyone could suggest a good source for information that might be able to help me find out more.
Cheers
 
Do you know which one and what year? My 3xgreat grandfather died in the Workhouse Infirmary Western road off Dudley Road Winson Green in Birmingham so it may be that he was born in the Infirmary part of a workhouse.
 
I remember my dad telling me that when a young copper, he would still escort family's, from the magistrates court Steel House Lane, to the old work house, would be late 30's, Paul
 
Yorkshire Lass said:
It looks like my great grandfather was born in a workhouse in Birmingham and I wondered if anyone could suggest a good source for information that might be able to help me find out more.
Cheers
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hi...do you have a copy of his birth certificate that will tell you where he was born etc...also if he was baptised his baptism info maybe on ancestry

lyn
 
Possible baptism info given on "Looking for Charles Henry Hill" thread in post #6

Possible birth registered with no mmn

HILL, CHARLES HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 198
 
pjmburns said:
Possible baptism info given on "Looking for Charles Henry Hill" thread in post #6

Possible birth registered with no mmn

HILL, CHARLES HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1868 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 198
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I have seen that reference but haven't been able to find the census's mentioned. I'll have another look. Thanks.
 
You have to be careful not to jump down the wrong path. Without seeing him on a census he could have been born anywhere in the country or beyond even.
 
Yorkshire Lass said:
I have seen that reference but haven't been able to find the census's mentioned. I'll have another look. Thanks.
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That is not a census reference. Those are the references needed if you decide to order that birth certificate and gamble on it being the right person. As MWS says it is easy to end up following the wrong person.
 
pjmburns said:
That is not a census reference. Those are the references needed if you decide to order that birth certificate and gamble on it being the right person. As MWS says it is easy to end up following the wrong person.
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No I just meant that I had seen what they were referring to. I can't find him on a census anywhere.
 
Sorry - misunderstood what you meant. No I couldn't find him either. Very odd he does appear with his wife.
 
pjmburns said:
Sorry - misunderstood what you meant. No I couldn't find him either. Very odd he does appear with his wife.
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From what I understand his wife died in 1901 but he is not on the census with her and the children then - they had already moved to Sheffield where their younger children were born. He apparently married again.
 
Think I know now - Amy born 1889, Lilian born 1891 and Charles born 1900.
On 1911 census Lilian is a boarder and, with the same family, Charles is down as adopted - both living in Sheffield.
 
pjmburns said:
Think I know now - Amy born 1889, Lilian born 1891 and Charles born 1900.
On 1911 census Lilian is a boarder and, with the same family, Charles is down as adopted - both living in Sheffield.
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That's interesting. I don't have that. They are the children but Amy was married in 1907 and living with her husband and two children in Sheffield.
 
Amy was born before they married and registered as Amy Elizabeth Hill Humphries.
 
I believe they were holding centers, used by the council for homeless family's, Yorkshirelass, mainly debtors, which was a criminal offence then, Father imprisoned family sent there. Paul
 
Not your great grandfather but the Charles who was on 1911 census and was adopted. Have you found his WW1 records on Ancestry? It is him as next of kin is his sister Amy Betts.
 
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No I haven't looked for them but I will. That Charles is the son on the one that I am looking for. He was the youngest of the 4 children that Charles Hill had with Mary Ann. Thanks
 
pjmburns said:
Not your great grandfather but the Charles who was on 1911 census and was adopted. Have you found his WW1 records on Ancestry? It is him as next of kin is his sister Amy Betts.
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Which record did you find if you don't mind me asking. I've only been able to find his enlistment form so far but I don't see a next of kin. Sorry but I am fairly new to this.
 
Page 1 is the enlistment but if you use the arrows to go from page to page one of them lists Amy. There is also some interesting reading about his kit being missing.
Don't worry about asking. Happy to help if I can.
Still can't find your Charles.
 
pjmburns said:
Page 1 is the enlistment but if you use the arrows to go from page to page one of them lists Amy. There is also some interesting reading about his kit being missing.
Don't worry about asking. Happy to help if I can.
Still can't find your Charles.
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That was fascinating. We could do with punishment like that these days and then we might not be in the state that we are.
Thank you.
 
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