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Where is This ? #190
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mike-g
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Newhall St Elkington factory. then science museum.
sylviasayers
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It looks like a hotel to me but I don't know the name of where it was situated.
I'd say the Hen & Chickens, New Street. Viv.
Phil, I'll hazard a guess, the Modern day Odeon? Here's an 1860 map which might help to pinpoint the spot.
https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/cs/Sa...528&pagename=BCC/Common/Wrapper/InlineWrapper
Viv.
Lloyd
master brummie
At first I wondered, The Birmingham Society of Artists, New Street? but that had a different style of Doric arch entrance.
There is a policeman standing under the canopy, so was it a Police Station in Corporation Street, replaced when the Law Courts were built?
There is a policeman standing under the canopy, so was it a Police Station in Corporation Street, replaced when the Law Courts were built?
Is it the Rotunda by any chance? Or is that too far along New St ? Viv.
dek carr
gone but not forgotten
Wasn,t there a Police Station in New St???Dek
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Yes Jennyann
Its the Arden Hotel which was just next door to the Odeon. I think you and Viv must share the kudos on this one. Well done both of you.
Here are a couple more photo, one when it was sort of half the Hen & Chickens and another when it was the Arden Hotel.
Phil
Its the Arden Hotel which was just next door to the Odeon. I think you and Viv must share the kudos on this one. Well done both of you.
Here are a couple more photo, one when it was sort of half the Hen & Chickens and another when it was the Arden Hotel.
Phil
Looks like there was a lot of re-modeling of the building from Phil's photo post #1 to the first photo in post #20. Lots of features seem to have been added including another floor whilst the porch seems to have been stripped of its ornamentation. The building in the 2nd photo post #20 seems to have gone through a complete re-build. Don't know the timescales here but that must almost be on a par with the frequency of change the City Centre witnesses these days!! Viv.
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Viv
You are correct in saying that the Hen & Chickens went through many changes in its long life and a complete rebuild when it became the Arden Hotel. As this drawing of the original Hen & Chickens shows accompanied by another photo of the Arden Hotel in what looks like the early 50's.
Phil
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You are correct in saying that the Hen & Chickens went through many changes in its long life and a complete rebuild when it became the Arden Hotel. As this drawing of the original Hen & Chickens shows accompanied by another photo of the Arden Hotel in what looks like the early 50's.
Phil
Nice photos Phil.
Spot the difference to 2nd photo post #22. https://www.flickr.com/photos/frmark/1424156462/
Mmmmm, it may be quicker to spot similarities ... Glad the Odeon still has its original sign above the canopy. Viv.
Spot the difference to 2nd photo post #22. https://www.flickr.com/photos/frmark/1424156462/
Mmmmm, it may be quicker to spot similarities ... Glad the Odeon still has its original sign above the canopy. Viv.
bobsummers
Gone but not forgotten. R.I.P.
Phil what was the building on the left of the Arden Hotel, the light colored building, 2nd photo in post No. 22 . It used to have about 4 steps slightly sticking out, up to an elegant entrance. I remember a mob of us in the 60's standing on these steps on a very wintry night singing carol songs and being conducted by Mushy (Moriarty) a notorious gambler of that era in town wearing his black tuxedo suit. Was it a bank?
Definitely remember Lloyds Bank at the bottom of the Rotunda. There used to be a pedestrian underpass, I think, in front of the Bank but expect all that went with the last re-development of the Bull Ring.
Phil, I like the photo of the Paramount in post 24. Love the sweeping line of the canopy. Viv.
Phil, I like the photo of the Paramount in post 24. Love the sweeping line of the canopy. Viv.
My own website page (referring to King Edward's School in New Street) tells me this:
(More information and images are here: https://www.staffshomeguard.co.uk/L4OtherReminiscencesstaffshg.shtml )
Does the above statement conflict with what has been stated in this thread? Should like to correct it if it's wrong.
Chris
The Girls' School was opened on 18th September 1893, in the Assembly Hall of the Boys' School in the Barry building. 150 girls were taught in the Hall, and 'classrooms' were separated by curtain partitions.
The Girls' Assembly Hall was separated from Big School - the Boys' Hall - by a corridor, the doors of which were carefully locked!
The establishment of the girls in the Barry building was most definitely a temporary measure, and the Governors continued to look for a central site on which to build the Girls' School. In 1889, the premises of the Liberal Club at the corner of Congreve Street became vacant and the Governors decided to take the building as another temporary, but far more more spacious, premises in which to house the girls. In 1893, the old Hen and Chickens Hotel (adjoining the boys' school in New Street) was for sale. The Governors quickly bought the site. At first sight the position was far from ideal, as it consisted of a narrow strip of land running back from the street with a very small frontage. However, Mr Chatwin, the architect, made the best of the space and a handsome school building - the High School for Girls - was opened on November 26th 1896.
The Girls' Assembly Hall was separated from Big School - the Boys' Hall - by a corridor, the doors of which were carefully locked!
The establishment of the girls in the Barry building was most definitely a temporary measure, and the Governors continued to look for a central site on which to build the Girls' School. In 1889, the premises of the Liberal Club at the corner of Congreve Street became vacant and the Governors decided to take the building as another temporary, but far more more spacious, premises in which to house the girls. In 1893, the old Hen and Chickens Hotel (adjoining the boys' school in New Street) was for sale. The Governors quickly bought the site. At first sight the position was far from ideal, as it consisted of a narrow strip of land running back from the street with a very small frontage. However, Mr Chatwin, the architect, made the best of the space and a handsome school building - the High School for Girls - was opened on November 26th 1896.
(More information and images are here: https://www.staffshomeguard.co.uk/L4OtherReminiscencesstaffshg.shtml )
Does the above statement conflict with what has been stated in this thread? Should like to correct it if it's wrong.
Chris
Phil
Gone, but not forgotten.
Chris
I don't think you are wrong in what you say, but you can clearly see on photo two post #20 of this thread both the Hen & Chickens and college existing side by side. On closer inspection you can see that KEGS runs along the rear of the hotel. Perhaps this is the narrow strip of land that is referred to?
Phil
I don't think you are wrong in what you say, but you can clearly see on photo two post #20 of this thread both the Hen & Chickens and college existing side by side. On closer inspection you can see that KEGS runs along the rear of the hotel. Perhaps this is the narrow strip of land that is referred to?
Phil
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