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Walter Collins and the Beet family
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lindev
master brummie
Jesus! Chris this is getting spooky.where about in Milton street was that Chris, we lived at number 41. I've taken some pictures of Walters resting place. Gonna try and put them on the thread in a bit.:thumbsup:
reg as far as i can remember the wests lived in the middle of milton street
Reg Cook
Cookie55
My pleasure!! Chris. I had to take a bow to the man. Thanks to Harry for doing this it really keeps them alive doesn't it. A lot better than looking at a blank space. XXXX
Reg Cook
Cookie55
Dear Reg,
I am sorry that you were unable to read the attachment. I have to say that the print on my copy is very small. Both articles were taken from the “Birmingham Mail” dated 21 June 1937 and 23 June 1937.
My grandfather was Alfred Victor Beet (1888-1964). He was the eldest son of Thomas Henry Beet and Eliza Elizabeth Hall. Frank Beet was his youngest brother.
As I mentioned in my earlier message I know nothing about Frank and Daisy and it was not until I saw your message on the Forum that I realized that they had another child following the tragic fire. Any additional information about the family and your connection would be most welcome.
The recent information on the Forum was very helpful.
Kind regards
Colin
I am sorry that you were unable to read the attachment. I have to say that the print on my copy is very small. Both articles were taken from the “Birmingham Mail” dated 21 June 1937 and 23 June 1937.
My grandfather was Alfred Victor Beet (1888-1964). He was the eldest son of Thomas Henry Beet and Eliza Elizabeth Hall. Frank Beet was his youngest brother.
As I mentioned in my earlier message I know nothing about Frank and Daisy and it was not until I saw your message on the Forum that I realized that they had another child following the tragic fire. Any additional information about the family and your connection would be most welcome.
The recent information on the Forum was very helpful.
Kind regards
Colin
lindev
master brummie
reg someone else started the thread for this person i believe, cant we go through them mr houghton i believe it was
lindev
master brummie
reg how old is colin do we know just wondering if he would know my mom, just spoke to harry beet he is the one in the photo in his moms arms, he was 2 years old when it happened and he thinks he may have got mixed up with walter being a fireman and thinks now it was the army, and reg please if you do get in touch with colin say a big thank you from me for this report and photos,
Hi thank you to everyone who has replied to my request for info on Walter Collins. Walter as I have previously explained was apparantly my mothers half brother. i have the original photo of him in uniform as priinted in news paper. he was in the Duke of Cornwalls light Infantry. How lovely lt was to see the grave restored however i believe that his mother was Julia Collins and not Julian, as this was my grandmother unless anyone knows different? does anyone know my mother who was May Hackett, her mother was Julia Collins, she had been married to a william Pearce then to Charles hackett. My mother married Albert Vinning.
lindev
master brummie
Hi Jof, i cant tell you anything about Julie but remember my mom talked about her quite often, but as usual with kids we dont listen wish so much that i had now, and mom spoke very highly of walter very handsome man she useed to say i will ask if any family remember your mom may hackett
Hi Lindev thank you. I would appreciate any info.My father always spoke of Summer Lane, and yes you are right I never took much notice of talk as a child but wish I had done!! i think my father Albert vinning may have met my mother thro' Walter as they were both in the same regiment. Walters picture of him in uniform used to hang in my parents sitting room, and spookily my sisters who are older than me used to tell me that as a little tot I would follow with my eyes around the room and laugh and they asked what i was looking at and i would point at the picture and say funny man !
Many thanks jof
Please pass on thanks to harry beet , i will visit the grave again, i remember going with my parents and later when going to mums grave. It was in a poor state then.
Many thanks jof
Please pass on thanks to harry beet , i will visit the grave again, i remember going with my parents and later when going to mums grave. It was in a poor state then.
Reg Cook
Cookie55
1891 Census, Livingstone street ??? place, number 10. Looks like a Beet! family.
Thomas beet, Jewelers engraver.
Lizzie Beet, Wife.
Lizzie Beet, daugh, age 11.
Kate Beet, daugh, age 12.
Florence Beet, daugh, age 7.
Rose Beet, daugh, age 5.
Alfred Beet, daugh, age 2
Thomas Beet, son, age 5 months.
Thomas beet, Jewelers engraver.
Lizzie Beet, Wife.
Lizzie Beet, daugh, age 11.
Kate Beet, daugh, age 12.
Florence Beet, daugh, age 7.
Rose Beet, daugh, age 5.
Alfred Beet, daugh, age 2
Thomas Beet, son, age 5 months.
Reg Cook
Cookie55
1911 Census.
Henry Collins. Head, age 46 Wire worker.
Fanny Collins. Wife, age 44 Wire worker, 24 years married.
Rebecca Collins. Daughter, age 23 single, wire worker.
Ellen Collins, Daughter, age 21 single, press worker.
Emma Collins, Daughter, age 18 single, Wire worker.
Fanny Collins, Daughter, age 16 single, silver polisher.
Alfred Collins, Son, age 9 at school.
Florie Collins, Daughter, age 14.
Walter Collins, Son, age 4.
Elsie Collins, Daughter, age 1.
17 back of 26 Tower street. Total of 13 children.
9 living 4 died.
Henry Collins. Head, age 46 Wire worker.
Fanny Collins. Wife, age 44 Wire worker, 24 years married.
Rebecca Collins. Daughter, age 23 single, wire worker.
Ellen Collins, Daughter, age 21 single, press worker.
Emma Collins, Daughter, age 18 single, Wire worker.
Fanny Collins, Daughter, age 16 single, silver polisher.
Alfred Collins, Son, age 9 at school.
Florie Collins, Daughter, age 14.
Walter Collins, Son, age 4.
Elsie Collins, Daughter, age 1.
17 back of 26 Tower street. Total of 13 children.
9 living 4 died.
Reg Cook
Cookie55
1911 Census.
Elizabeth Beet head, Widow age 52.
Harry Beet, son single, age 17 Jeweler Letter.
Frank Beet, son age 12.
Tom Beet, married age 20, silver smith.
Louisa Beet, daughter-in-law married under one year, age 18 pearl fancier. (Arn't all women) LOL!!
Court 66/3 Farm street.
Elizabeth Beet head, Widow age 52.
Harry Beet, son single, age 17 Jeweler Letter.
Frank Beet, son age 12.
Tom Beet, married age 20, silver smith.
Louisa Beet, daughter-in-law married under one year, age 18 pearl fancier. (Arn't all women) LOL!!
Court 66/3 Farm street.
Reg Cook
Cookie55
1911 Census.
Henry Beet, head age 46 Brass polisher.
Eliza Beet, wife age 41. Born Stroud Glouc. Married 20 years.
Lily Beet, single age 19 press worker.
Henry Beet, single age 17 tool maker.
Rose Beet, single age 18.
William Beet, age 13 school.
Ethel Beet, age 11.
Doris Beet, age 8.
Arthur Beet, age 6.
Ernest Beet, age 4.
Frank Beet age 1.
118, Anderton street.
Henry Beet, head age 46 Brass polisher.
Eliza Beet, wife age 41. Born Stroud Glouc. Married 20 years.
Lily Beet, single age 19 press worker.
Henry Beet, single age 17 tool maker.
Rose Beet, single age 18.
William Beet, age 13 school.
Ethel Beet, age 11.
Doris Beet, age 8.
Arthur Beet, age 6.
Ernest Beet, age 4.
Frank Beet age 1.
118, Anderton street.
Reg Cook
Cookie55
Thanks for that Maurice, very much! appreciated.
It doesn't look as if anyone posted The Times report, so here it is.
Maurice
lindev
master brummie
Hi Jof, i passed on your thanks to Harry Beet, he said thank you it means a lot to him, and hopes when you visit the grave you will be happy with it, we are still trying to sort out different things but we are going to see another old relation really soon so i will be in touch, lindev
Hi Reg,
I saw with interest your 1911 census and saw a walter collins listed. This is where it has got confusing as Walter was supposedly my mothers half brother and none of the others listed seem to be part of my family tree. His mother was believed to be Julia Collins my grandmother and My mother was May Hackett as Julia maried again to Charles Hackett using her maiden name even though she was widowed. I believe julia may have been married previously to a William Pearce. regards JOF
I saw with interest your 1911 census and saw a walter collins listed. This is where it has got confusing as Walter was supposedly my mothers half brother and none of the others listed seem to be part of my family tree. His mother was believed to be Julia Collins my grandmother and My mother was May Hackett as Julia maried again to Charles Hackett using her maiden name even though she was widowed. I believe julia may have been married previously to a William Pearce. regards JOF
Reg Cook
Cookie55
Hello Jof. Confusing! yes. I don't know who any of these Beet or Collins family's belong to. I was just trawling!! the Census through Aston and just fell upon them, so I suppose they have to belong to our family somewhere along the family line. I put them on here hoping someone would recognize them. I don't. Regards Reg.
Reg Cook
Cookie55
Hiya Chris. My Cousin, Brian Cook Married a Margaret Davis. I'm pretty sure she lived in Windsor Street as a child. XXXX
Hi Reg, thanks for reply. I wish that people hadn't used the same names then it would have been easier!! i think I am going to go on another track, so does anybody know either my mother May Hackett , grandfather Charles Hackett or my Father Albert Vinning. All from the same area Summer Lane, Cowper Street, asylum road. Fingers crossed if i go from a different starting place something might drop out.
Both my parents are deceased so any info has gone with them !
The Collins family I have been following are Ann nee Finn and John whose daughter Julia may be my grandmother. Walter -Julia's son - was supposedly cousin to the Beet children who died in the fire.
Confused you definately will be ! it's like doing detective work.
Regards JOF
Both my parents are deceased so any info has gone with them !
The Collins family I have been following are Ann nee Finn and John whose daughter Julia may be my grandmother. Walter -Julia's son - was supposedly cousin to the Beet children who died in the fire.
Confused you definately will be ! it's like doing detective work.
Regards JOF
