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Vinyl Comeback

Vivienne14

Vivienne14

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Couldn't believe my eyes yesterday - our local Tesco is selling vinyl records ! Not just modern stuff but old LPs. I think some are remastered and some have the original images on the sleeves. What goes around, comes around. Viv.
 
One of the few areas in the record industry that is growing, Viv. But the small businesses that still make a living out of selling vinyl certainly won't like the big boys cashing in.

Maurice
 
We kept nearly all of our vinyl LP's bought over the years, including (I think) every one of The Beatles LP's in good condition. The only problem is we don't have a turntable (!) but I think that may be rectified before too long. It's good to see vinyl making a return.

G
 
MY first vinyl record I bought for my Wife in HK in 1953, 'Mr Rythm' by Frankie Laine ( my Wife's favourite singer), still plays perfectly, a 10 inch 33 rpm LP . I have about 40 others, mostly LPs and still played occasionally. I recently bought a new turn table. Eric
 
What were the old 78’s made out of ? Was it the same material as LPs, EPs and singles ? It’s just that I remember people having moulded fruit bowls etc made from old 78’s. The material seemed to me quite thick and possibly brittle. Viv.
 
Thanks for putting me right Maurice, I always thought the were Bakelite ! I still have a few, old Humphry Littleton jazz 78's, a bit scratchy now though. Eric
 
Did not realise that old 78's were shellac. Can't remember but were they still going when the Beatles came in? If so then the Beatles were recorded on Beetles
 
I am in the process of selling my vinyl collection...I'm sorry but I have no use for primitive media, including CD's. I'm an old fart like many of you on this forum, however, I've always moved forward, including my choice of music and the way it's listened to. I realize the shortcomings of digital compressed formats, but it's convenience first...
Dave
 
Hi Dave,

Yes, there are slight shortcomings to formats like MP3, but if you can manage to hear those deficiencies then you're a darned sight younger than you say you are! :)

And let me correct myself, since no one else did. 78 rpm records were made of shellac, 45 rpm & 33 & 1/3 rpm were made of polyvinyl chloride (PVC).

Maurice
 
sospiri said:
Hi Dave,

Yes, there are slight shortcomings to formats like MP3, but if you can manage to hear those deficiencies then you're a darned sight younger than you say you are! :)

And let me correct myself, since no one else did. 78 rpm records were made of shellac, 45 rpm & 33 & 1/3 rpm were made of polyvinyl chloride (PVC).

Maurice
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Well I am 78, and my hearing is not what it used to be...I really do not hear enough of a difference to ever want to revert to the old formats. In addition, there are compressed files such as FLAC, that are equal to WAV files, so there are genuine alternatives to vinyl and CD's. I honestly feel that the vinyl revival is NOT about audio quality, but a desire for the past, just like tight pants!
Dave A
 
Big Gee said:
We kept nearly all of our vinyl LP's bought over the years, including (I think) every one of The Beatles LP's in good condition. The only problem is we don't have a turntable (!) but I think that may be rectified before too long. It's good to see vinyl making a return.

G
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I still have all my Beatles MONO LP's that I took to Canada...it's a mystery to me that you say that yours are still in good condition, considering what we got to play them on, literally scratch boxes, unless you were blessed with a real hi-fi in the early 60's.
Dave A
 
Personally I find the quality of both Vinyl and CD's adequate for my aging ears and no wish to change. I sometimes think its change for change sake. My taste in music is Classical and I'm perfectly happy with the sound quality of both. Eric
 
wished i had hung onto my old record player...must have worn out every record i had:D
 
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Pedro,

I couldn't agree more. Whilst the small businesses are, in the main, merely recycling old LPs, the entry of supermarket chains to the arena means that orders are once more being placed for the manufacture of many more vinyls, whilst at the same time lowering prices and helping to put the little specialist dealer out of business.

Personally I don't think that the market for this format is that big. True collectors want the original not a copy, though no doubt someone will try and palm off a copy as the original in years to come, though most true collectors can soon spot a dud!

Maurice
 
Maurice
Not into music at all I'm afraid, but are you saying that vinyl records produced now will be of inferior quality to older ones?
 
Astoness said:
wished i had hung onto my dansac record player...must have worn out every record i had:D
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mikejee said:
Maurice
Not into music at all I'm afraid, but are you saying that vinyl records produced now will be of inferior quality to older ones?
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If they have the master tapes, then there should no difference in the audio quality...however, not sure about the vinyl composition, but I tend to believe that today's vinyl would be superior. Just my opinion. It's true that some people would rather have the original, but that is not about the quality of the audio, but having something more unique.
Dave A
 
It’s the DJ’s who want vinyl records to do their ‘scratching techniques’. There is even a whole vocabulary that has evolved around scratching. The Baby, Scribble where would we be without the good old Cut and Stab.
 
No, not at all, Mike, but they will be copies made in 2018 rather than the originals produced in 19**. I used to buy & sell old postcards some years ago and it you tried selling a reproduction as the original, the buyer would go absolutely bananas. Generally reproduction postcards are marked in very tiny print with the word "reproduction" - Birmingham Library sells loads - but I don't know what distinguishing marks are available on vinyls.

I'm not into jewellery at all, but I couldn't tell the difference between a genuine diamond and a fake one, but there is a big difference in the price!

Maurice
 
If you want a cheap record player you can get briefcase style ones from around £20 in argos. The recent wave of vinyl records are generally heavier than the older versions and more expensive. If they're re-issues, they tend to be re-mastered from the original tapes. It was said month's back that vinyl outsells download or maybe that was CDs. It doesn't really but they charge so much for new vinyl that it looks that way. The library still has a lot of old stock and it sells off bunches of it at times. What they have out at the moment is mostly classical with the odd musical or film soundtrack.
 
We went to see quite an old school friend the other day and took along our record player (bought from Aldi for £25) to play some of the old 45's we had kept from the late 50's/early 60's. It was our lucky day, they had just cleared the loft and had two boxes full of records which they were happy to give to us. Parker thought his Christmases had all come at once!
 
I was chatting to a sales assistant in a high street music store in Leeds a couple of weeks ago

and he told me that they were selling more vinyl now than cd, and he expected more space to be

given over to that medium in the not too distant future.
 
Way back in the late 1950s I bought components from the Radio shops in Hurst Street to build a stereo amplifier. The only shop I could find selling stereo records was Murdochs in the Old Square and the only record they had was an opera Madame Butterfly. It was not my usual choice of music but it was stereo. I still have about 30 LP records stashed away at the back of a cupboard and pulled 7 of them out as shown below and that first stereo record is top left. I have not played any of them in at least the last 20 years.
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