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Then & Now

Richarddye

master brummie
Well I'm shocked nothing looks familiar to me, I was born in Selly Oak, l worked in Selly Oak then travelled through it every day into town I know Selly Oak or use to ?.
Going to fire up the desk top and street view Selly Oak.
I'm with Bob...……...I knew Selly Oak quite well and the new pictures are as my grandson would say "from another planet" & somewhat disappointing. I know that change is inevitable but these are not good!
 

Robert Ensor (bob)

master brummie
I don't remember the Plough and Harrow, but I was once told Selly Oak had the highest number of pubs in Brum ?.
When I worked in the town I would come up passed the bus garage then turn right onto the Bristol Road where the picture house was.
When I worked on Dawlish Road I would walk up to the same picture house then turn left to a cash and carry called Rushdens where I would meet my pop to shop for my mom's grocery store.
 

Robert Ensor (bob)

master brummie
In a lot of these then and now pictures it looks as if everything has just been swept away willy nilly the road widened it nothing else built, leaving just a wide road. Where did the people go?
Bob
You remember the song streets full of people la la " everyone's gone to the moon" mid 60,s.
We were a nation of shop keepers so the high Street had people now we have refrigerators and frozen food and supermarkets.
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
The Bristol Rd/Oaktree Lane corner seems to be a favorite spot for Google's streetcam because they have been photographing it since 2011 as seen below. In March 2017 they caught some people walking and hardly any cars. Still looks 'wide open' but could be because of the type of camera they use. If you scroll the street view in post #1436 around and move along Oaktree Lane there are small shops along there in the original buildings.
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Bob Davis

Bob Davis
The Bristol Rd/Oaktree Lane corner seems to be a favorite spot for Google's streetcam because they have been photographing it since 2011 as seen below. In March 2017 they caught some people walking and hardly any cars. Still looks 'wide open' but could be because of the type of camera they use. If you scroll the street view in post #1436 around and move along Oaktree Lane there are small shops along there in the original buildings.
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I wonder what time of day it was taken. Again the comment was made more from the point that in a lot of the then pictures/postcards etc there were houses. Where did they all go, because although nowadays a great many flats above shops are lets, in days of yore (when men were men and chaps were a man's pants (Bob Hope - The Paleface)). The owner used to live over the shop. It was just an idle thought, but I admire your ability transfer pictures like you do, so just kep them coming.

Bob
 

oldMohawk

master brummie
They waited for a bus and three came along. The first bus '11E Perry Barr Garage' might not have stopped so they boarded the second which is also '11E Perry Barr'. The view is from the High Street end of Harborne Park Road and the Kings Arms Pub is on the left.
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Today the Kings Arms is long gone but a neat block of flats has been built on the site. Everyone in their cars so not many buses needed.
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Radiorails

master brummie
I read that Harborne Park Road was once simply Park Road but the Harborne part added to distinguish it from other Park Roads sometime during the 19th. century. A busy day it appears with three buses on the Outer Circle 11. The letter E meant exception which was introduced by the PTE for short workings of the route, in this photo it being Perry Barr. At the same time the A anticlockwise and C clockwise suffixes were introduced. Prior to the the ambiguous SERVICE EXTRA was of often used, but the Perry Barr Garage destination would have also presumably be used.
 

ellbrown

ell brown on Flickr
The 11A and 11C still run to this day from National Express West Midlands. And sometimes they do still come in two or threes. It would normally say 11E Acocks Green if going back to the Acocks Green Bus Garage. They are always changing drivers near the garage on the Fox Hollies Road. And before that, the driver has a 10 minute break at Acocks Green Bowl.

This is what the 11 looks like now.

 

Radiorails

master brummie
If you know the city's geography you can tell which direction the bus was travelling. The simple Outer Circle description could have given you a long ride if you went the wrong way around. However I guess the conductor or 'clippie' would tell you if you made that mistake.
 

Spargone

master brummie
Today the Kings Arms is long gone but a neat block of flats has been built on the site. Everyone in their cars so not many buses needed.
Hardly fair! The first picture is taken late afternoon and the second, early morning. Besides bus 4649 has just gone past and has turned onto the High Street! For obvious reasons Google tend to take their photos when traffic is light.
 

A Sparks

master brummie
If you know the city's geography you can tell which direction the bus was travelling. The simple Outer Circle description could have given you a long ride if you went the wrong way around. However I guess the conductor or 'clippie' would tell you if you made that mistake.
Of course, depending where you wanted to go, you could choose either direction ;)
 

Izzy1703

proper brummie kid
I almost cried when the old bullring was being demolished. I used to work in woolworth's in the cafeteria. I worked in the kitchen. Loved that job.
Does anyone remember in the late 1960s and early 70's before you used to walk down into the Bull Ring from near where the Rotunda was if you walked to the left there was a fish and chip shop and if you carried on walking past it there was a small carousel at the end of the walkway. It was always a treat for me after shopping with my mum to go on the carousel and have a bag of chips. Also, does anyone remember in between the 2 sections of market stalls in the outdoor market there used to be a man doing a very loud selling routine of whole china sets and he used to throw them up in the air and catch them without breaking them - I was only about 6 or 7 and I used to love watching him (but used to hate going shopping with my mum as it was so boring!).
 

john knight

signman
Does anyone remember in the late 1960s and early 70's before you used to walk down into the Bull Ring from near where the Rotunda was if you walked to the left there was a fish and chip shop and if you carried on walking past it there was a small carousel at the end of the walkway. It was always a treat for me after shopping with my mum to go on the carousel and have a bag of chips. Also, does anyone remember in between the 2 sections of market stalls in the outdoor market there used to be a man doing a very loud selling routine of whole china sets and he used to throw them up in the air and catch them without breaking them - I was only about 6 or 7 and I used to love watching him (but used to hate going shopping with my mum as it was so boring!).
Remember them both very well, Nelson was there at one time
 

Izzy1703

proper brummie kid
Trocadero is in Temple Street, just googled it, and there is a website, cheers
I used to be a barmaid in the Trocadero for a while, in the 80s when pubs used to get packed out - it was a lovely pub and had 2 separate bars and a dumb waiter for the food orders. It was said to be haunted!
 

Izzy1703

proper brummie kid
ahh thats better phil i can just see the crown and cushion pub in that shot

lyn
Hello Astoness - I remember the Crown and Cushion pub on the corner - it never seemed to have many customers. There was a small tucked away pub called the New Crown and Cushion on the opposite side of the road near to the bakers. Re the original Crown and Cushion which is shown to be African Village - this actually burned down last Tuesday ( 14/01/2020)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-51117956 - see the link here on BBC news.
 
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